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Old 06-03-2016, 01:21 PM   #196
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Yup, sadly, I suppose these decisions are "common sense" and "logical" if your goal is to make money from human misery.
I know the US* seems to ruale, and want to rule, the world of suffering but I also know my own government (as described) seem to want it also.

*I realise that the current (or any) governemt of the US has not been democratically electd within living memory (if ever) so this pertains to the cuntry as-is.
 
Old 06-04-2016, 05:26 PM   #197
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Yup, sadly, I suppose these decisions are "common sense" and "logical" if your goal is to make money from human misery.
I know the US* seems to ruale, and want to rule, the world of suffering but I also know my own government (as described) seem to want it also.

*I realise that the current (or any) governemt of the US has not been democratically electd within living memory (if ever) so this pertains to the cuntry as-is.
Making money off the backs of others is capitalism at its worst (finest?).

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After all what he did, wasn't technically illegal - immoral yes, but morality and legality aren't always the same. Laws are and usually are written to favor the powerful, protecting the smaller is just lip service.
 
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Making money off the backs of others is capitalism at its worst (finest?).

Just ask this guy
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After all what he did, wasn't technically illegal - immoral yes, but morality and legality aren't always the same. Laws are and usually are written to favor the powerful, protecting the smaller is just lip service.
I'll just leave this here also.


Capitalists TRUE capitalists deep down love socialism btw. After all, where did they get all the money to bail out all those failing banks, and other companies 8 or so years ago?

Capitalism for the poor; 'you're on your own'
Socialism for the rich; 'too big to fail'

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Old 06-04-2016, 06:23 PM   #199
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Old 06-08-2016, 05:53 PM   #200
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Weed is not safe for habitual use. It does trigger psychosis and developmental disorders. Maybe not in every individual, I don't know and I don't care. I surely am affected.
This is highly () debatable, most who abuse do with more than weed. Older and extremely heavy alcohol (or worst pill) users seem obviously affected to me but many who've smoked weed most of their days and are older seem sharp.

Something that comes to mind here (besides my old post^ about getting high in a dream) is LSD (a drug I don't support recreationally) it is said that one hit can drive you crazy but I assume that is not a physical reaction like saying alcoholism is a disease IMHO it's a large part in your head i.e: thinking\learning. Placebos we can legally study...
 
Old 06-08-2016, 06:55 PM   #201
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-t...ts_of_cannabis

I know risks of chronic cannabis use. I do not see chances that weight up to it.

If one is a cronical user, there are reasons for it. There were some so I did. These reasons must be taken into consideration individually. It is possibly no help to take this option simply away from a user. It can modulate the mood for example.

In total I think there are coming lots of disadvantages with this thing. It is still an intense medication interacting excessively in the brain, somehow, maybe even randomly. I think this is for sure problematic.

I agree if someone uses only cannabis, than this will be much better than when he uses additionally e.g. amphetamines and LSD plus whatever else he finds on a regular basis.

Heavy alcohol consumption or addiction of benzodiazepines are very, very severe issues to health, yes. Unassisted withdrawel will be lethal in some, contrary to, of course, cannabis.

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Old 06-08-2016, 07:34 PM   #202
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Your link and post as well many views and facts offer good reasons to raise the "legal" ages to 25 (younger than the US president must be and around when the brain stops physically developing,) though if they did that all around (like they should (except driving and work) sorry young folk) who would fight the wars for them!

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Old 06-08-2016, 08:08 PM   #203
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It would be wise if people don't become exposed to strong psychoactive exogens before they are somewhat mature.

However, this is unrealistic, unfortunately. It should be some goal for optimization nevertheless.

Criminalization or at least penalization of individuals for drug use or drug abuse seems unproductive. Or is the yield in deterrance so high? I am unsure.

Illegalization and by that toxically contaminated drugs of all kinds at ridiculously high prices seems unproductive to me too.

Of course there is conflicts of interest there. Like does availibility of pure drugs at affordable price increase the tendency to addiction? And that is a realistic fear, too.

But now I think calculation is: who touches drugs will be written off quickly.

Is that fair, while drugs are being produced cheaply? How fair is it to watch addicted people, that don't have freedom of choice anymore, consume poisonous mixtures? While the substances themselves are less toxic?

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Old 06-29-2016, 10:07 AM   #204
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If you find yourself confused by the debate over cannabis, let’s take a second to clear things up for you: Weed is bad. How is weed bad? It just is, according to the US government, and you can’t have it. Period. The End.

WHY IS IT BAD? WELL LOOK AT ALL THIS FANCY RESEARCH:

IT’S CLEARLY DANGEROUS…
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If people who take drugs just tatooed the fact on the front head, I could more easily avoid them. The “harm” to others is done much later, sometimes, but when you notice the dickhead, it is too late. Negative. All negative, here. When you got enough of it, you become that way. Harm done.
 
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If people who take drugs just tatooed the fact on the front head, I could more easily avoid them. The “harm” to others is done much later, sometimes, but when you notice the dickhead, it is too late. Negative. All negative, here. When you got enough of it, you become that way. Harm done.
Sounds more like an inside problem... myself as a quiet guy, people who are more outgoing find me, over time I have stereotyped many of these people as testosterone loving bullying freaks but that just isn't fair!

We don't need drugs to suck, just opinions and no education will do!

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Furthermore the schools of hard knocks, needs hard knocks!

Average kids born in ghettos that make it to "the top"
are naturally more resilient than ones with Argyria?!.

No matter what anyone "thinks" if you're over 25
I grant you all permission to ingest as much weed as you want!
 
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Thumbs down Not only is sex more addicktive

but far burdens us all compared to pot (aside from hooking up giggle ones...)
 
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It would be wise if people don't become exposed to strong psychoactive exogens before they are somewhat mature.
Go to psychiatric hospitals, you'll find many young adults who tried some "thing".
 
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