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Couldn't agree more, but pollies and righteous people live in glass houses, so they love throwing stones at us peasants...
Nah they live in Canberra(Australian Capital Territory, ACT) with its lovely cannabis laws-
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Cannabis
With respect to cannabis in the ACT, it is illegal to:
administer it to someone else
possess any quantity of it
cultivate or be involved in cultivating any quantity of it
sell or supply any quantity of it.
Penalties start at $100 fines for simple cannabis offences, and range up to $250 000 fines and life imprisonment for more serious cannabis offences.
Sounds nasty eh? Till you scroll down-
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Cannabis offence notice
The Drugs of Dependence Act 1989 (DoDA) has been amended to reduce the number of cannabis plants which can be dealt with by way of a Simple Cannabis Offence Notice (SCON) from five to two and the exclusion of all hydroponically or artificially cultivated cannabis plants from the SCON scheme.
The SCON scheme allows for a person to possess up to 50 grams of dried cannabis, or two cannabis plants (excluding all hydroponically or artificially cultivated cannabis plants) where it is deemed by police to be for personal use only they can be issued a penalty order fine. If the fine is paid within 60 days, no criminal record will be recorded. However failure to pay the penalty order may result in criminal proceedings before the court. Possession of any amount of cannabis in the ACT is NOT legal it is only decriminalised.
Unless you're really stupid it ends up being $100 fine for up to 2 plants at home and or 50 grams (1.75 oz) at home or in public.
Oddly enough Washington D.C. has some pretty soft cannabis laws as well.
Even better, in 1993 ATC decriminalised just a few years after South Australia did in 1987, being the 1st state to do so in Australia. So very similar to legalisation in Washington D.C. vs Colorado (2015 vs 2012).
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Originally Posted by wraithe
They legalised medical use in WA last year, but you cant grow it, you have to import it, thus that comes under Federal law where it is still illegal to import...
Bit like "you can ride the horse but your not allowed in the paddock to catch it"
But even when it does come in, a 'warehoused' supply from 'approved international suppliers'? Hopefully they are better than the crap the US science has to work with but I somwhow guess not-
I do think that one's a bad idea... sure the roads safer with us potheads compared to you $uc☠er$ but I'd like it legal not controversial... "legal" like that matter$!
Last edited by jamison20000e; 05-13-2017 at 03:21 PM.
Reason: semantics
I guess if it was strictly for medical use I'd say okay but then perhaps from a pharmacy also pushing opioids and butt steroids*?
My last post linking to the gentleman Styxhexenhammer666 stated the same thing. It is a combination of moralist pearl clutchers on the one hand, with no basis on actual fact (see the Reefer Madness mentality, same with alcohol a century ago), and on the other, the pharmaceutical side it is more profitable to peddle out opioids. Now again perhaps in certain circumstances there is a good use, especially in a controlled hospital setting, where say a patient is in intensive care - using an opiate based drug (morphine) would make sense, since I doubt in terms of extremely severe pain blocking, marijuana would be as quick to act, let alone be as effective in that case. It just has to be used properly. So yes, in this circumstance I am not against the use of opioids in that situation, it is actually a valid and valuable use.
Obviously there are going to be different meds for different situations/circumstances; but again this outright aversion to marijuana for the use of medical reasons because 'reasons' - is dumb.
Again, I am echoing also from the video link I posted as well - actually there is no reason legally for marijuana not to be allowed for recreational purposes either. As he stated, one enjoys a nice drink either before, during or after a meal (alcohol), or they smoke, or again morning (or whenever) cup of coffee. I like those too (except for smoking), I don't consume any tobacco; but the data is there, marijuana is no more dangerous than what is actually legal, tobacco, alcohol, caffeine is more dangerous. Though yes, one still can argue that if marijuana is smoked, it still isn't very good for your lungs, and in that sense, yes that can be true, but still probably much less hazardous compared to a cigarette, unless you are able to get a hold of tobacco that is not processed in a factory which has more additives and such, but now I am just getting into a tangent again.
My last post linking to the gentleman Styxhexenhammer666 stated the same thing. It is a combination of moralist pearl clutchers on the one hand, with no basis on actual fact (see the Reefer Madness mentality, same with alcohol a century ago), and on the other, the pharmaceutical side it is more profitable to peddle out opioids. Now again perhaps in certain circumstances there is a good use, especially in a controlled hospital setting, where say a patient is in intensive care - using an opiate based drug (morphine) would make sense, since I doubt in terms of extremely severe pain blocking, marijuana would be as quick to act, let alone be as effective in that case. It just has to be used properly. So yes, in this circumstance I am not against the use of opioids in that situation, it is actually a valid and valuable use.
Obviously there are going to be different meds for different situations/circumstances; but again this outright aversion to marijuana for the use of medical reasons because 'reasons' - is dumb.
Again, I am echoing also from the video link I posted as well - actually there is no reason legally for marijuana not to be allowed for recreational purposes either. As he stated, one enjoys a nice drink either before, during or after a meal (alcohol), or they smoke, or again morning (or whenever) cup of coffee. I like those too (except for smoking), I don't consume any tobacco; but the data is there, marijuana is no more dangerous than what is actually legal, tobacco, alcohol, caffeine is more dangerous. Though yes, one still can argue that if marijuana is smoked, it still isn't very good for your lungs, and in that sense, yes that can be true, but still probably much less hazardous compared to a cigarette, unless you are able to get a hold of tobacco that is not processed in a factory which has more additives and such, but now I am just getting into a tangent again.
Anything toxic doesn't (dosen't) make sense to me (doctors\we* use opinions"$" too,,, like Enorbet* texted once (here or there) "it's a practice" from science,) concentrated marijuana will do the same as opioids &c non-toxic (like Salvia Divinorum except to unevolved (or perhaps twisted***(?!‽.)***) thought (don't jump you can't fly(!‽.))) but on the recreational side it makes you think (pun in 10 did,) laws start out thought tho then control whereas education persists never stop
Last edited by jamison20000e; 05-13-2017 at 01:37 PM.
Reason: added [b] & [size
A friend of a friend made some potent a$$ caramels, they were so good! That was before vaping was big and it was strange getting high in such an extremely healthy way, especially if you'd have asthma (and who won't with these trends*.)
SOME LAWS DO NOT MATTER AND CAN SUCK a caramel.
Get caught with a pound of weed go to jail, pound of heroin (and\or drunk fight) jail... get out and call your new found hookups from said jail and smoke a j, your okay, the other one now lost their tolerance to a potential poison* shoots-up* and dies! Prisons (hell even education to people who try to make there "jobs" jargon like politicians) are too make money not spend it‽
Just tax the weed.
Last edited by jamison20000e; 05-24-2017 at 03:26 PM.
Philosophy points towards "don't fear death" (unless your a sheepish moron) so nothing to fear towards Salvia Divinorum as it's non-toxic... that is if you have a "babysitter,,," ironic hay!?‽
Side note: if life sucks is still better than nothing!!!!!!!
Alcohol and tobacco are worse, not that you couldn't vape or eat tobacco and its addictiveness... but for what an imaginary "buzz" after your use to "it."
Last edited by jamison20000e; 06-28-2017 at 12:02 PM.
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