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Old 04-06-2005, 11:32 PM   #1966
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Quote:
Originally posted by allforcarrie
It is already happening to firefox, people are accepting it with its whole 6% of the market.
Depends on who you go by. Some of the studies I've seen show firefox having around a 21% market share. http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp
 
Old 04-07-2005, 12:32 AM   #1967
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I am a complete novice to Linux. I have used Apple/Microsoft OSs for all of my life. Recently I decided to test out what Linux had to offer. My one major complaint: you should not have to use a DOS-style window to accomplish simple taks. If you want to do more complicated commands there would be many advantages to banging out lines in the terminal. However, the terminal is very intimidating especially to someone who has no grasp on commands or what they do. I am more than willing to learn and this certainly won't stop me. It, might however, make me think twice before taking an action that should be relitively painless (such as updating a kernel).
 
Old 04-07-2005, 01:50 AM   #1968
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>Knoppix for instance picked up ALL hardware immediately ...

No, it does not pickup all hardware at all. I have lots of hardware that is not liked by any version of Linux. But I do think that Knoppix is probably the best version of any distribution of Linux. The only problem that I have with Knoppix is that I can't figure out how to set it up on my hard drive, instead of running it from a CD. So, I run Fedora instead.

I have begun to think that the difficulty with Linux and other Open Source Software is intentional. I honestly think that it has to do with $$$$. The primary way that anyone will make a profit from Linux is from support. That means keeping things difficult and docs to a minimum, which is the way things are.
(For a long while I didn't think that Linux programmers knew how to communicate with the average person.)

Personally, I think that people are shooting themselves in the foot with this idea, if I am correct.
 
Old 04-07-2005, 02:07 AM   #1969
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>the terminal is very intimidating especially to someone who has no grasp on commands or what they do. I am more than willing to learn and this certainly won't stop me. It, might however, make me think twice before taking an action that should be relatively painless (such as updating a kernel).
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Updating you kernel and other operating software is one of the more important things that you can do. Contrary to popular belief, there is lots of code out there to take advantage of linux systems which have not been updated. It's not as bad as a Microsoft system. But's not automatically safe either. There are always flaws in every piece of code that someone will try to take advantage of. It is very important to keep your operating system updated.

 
Old 04-07-2005, 04:16 AM   #1970
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Quote:
Originally posted by green_squirrel
Knoppix for instance picked up ALL hardware immediately ...

No, it does not pickup all hardware at all.
I said it picked up all hardware on the machine I installed
XP on today immediately. Pretty pointless for you to say
it didn't, I don't recall seeing you at my desk ;)

I never said Knoppix will generally pick up all hardware,
all I said is that it did a better job on my workstation that
eXPeriment did.


Cheers,
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Old 04-07-2005, 06:36 AM   #1971
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Originally posted by green_squirrel
...The only problem that I have with Knoppix is that I can't figure out how to set it up on my hard drive, instead of running it from a CD....
Tsk, tsk, tsk.

You can google, can't you? I used Clusty (http://www.clusty.com) with the search string "knoppix harddisk install".

This (http://www.knoppix.net/wiki/Hd_Install_HowTo) is the fourth result from top...


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Old 04-07-2005, 06:43 AM   #1972
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Oh great genie. LOCK LOCK! Lockity lock lock. Go away shoo, thread. Go away...



I say lock...

No... this thread won't go away.
 
Old 04-07-2005, 06:51 AM   #1973
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I think, Tinkster tried to shoot it and prodded or poked it with a stick ... to no avail .

I also think it is probably undead . Silver bullets anybody?

Btw. where is Paul Parr, the guy who ultimately has to answer for all this ?

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Old 04-07-2005, 07:01 AM   #1974
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This thread is almost two years old

Created on April 10th, 2003 20:44.

We'll celebrate its anniversary in a couple of days
 
Old 04-07-2005, 07:03 AM   #1975
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"Celebrate" huh?

 
Old 04-07-2005, 07:07 AM   #1976
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And the same arguments keep coming up again and again and again.....

I use windows 2000 pro. Simply because

a) I have a very good scanner that no linux release is going to support.

b) My graphics card is legacy but does what I want and Linux seems to have a problem with it.

c) I can't remember much CLI stuff. Even windows Command prompt.

d) My system is very stable and I dont get ZAPPED by anyone through my firewall.

etc etc etc.
 
Old 04-07-2005, 07:50 AM   #1977
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Last edited by jamyskis; 04-07-2005 at 07:53 AM.
 
Old 04-07-2005, 08:17 AM   #1978
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I think, Linux will be good for the end user after 2-3 years.
Now My 4.1 sound is not working, KDE freezing, Linux sometimes freezing at all (reset helpd) And there are A LOT of bugs with locales and clipboard in KDA. I recompiled my kernel, now linux freezes very often, no sound, I cannot switch pc off aprogram way
 
Old 04-07-2005, 01:50 PM   #1979
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Let's see. I have both FC3 and Win XP on a partitioned hard drive on one laptop.
FC3 on another laptop.
RH9 on a third laptop.
Win 95 on a desktop.
Win 3.0 on a fourth laptop.

All of my equipment can be used by one system or another, regardless of how old it is. (Excluding the equipment in my private museum going back to 1980, which still has all equipment in working order.)

And none of that overblown workstation terminal stuff.....

Last edited by green_squirrel; 04-07-2005 at 01:54 PM.
 
Old 04-09-2005, 09:32 AM   #1980
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Quote:
Originally posted by Nad0xFF
I think, Linux will be good for the end user after 2-3 years.
Now My 4.1 sound is not working, KDE freezing, Linux sometimes freezing at all (reset helpd) And there are A LOT of bugs with locales and clipboard in KDA. I recompiled my kernel, now linux freezes very often, no sound, I cannot switch pc off aprogram way
Sounds a bit like User Error there.

I have no problem with either 5.1 soundcard I have in my machine (this one has 2), I rarely have freeze ups (2 or so since I built it a year ago), and really dont have many bugs.
 
  


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