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Old 05-27-2015, 01:14 PM   #31
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Personally I'm still waiting for M$ to declare that Windows 10 is no longer malware in the EULA and some confirmation that is true -- then I'll get rid of the hopeless 8. I do find 8.1 more usable but it's still hopeless garbage.
 
Old 05-27-2015, 01:57 PM   #32
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Hmmm, while it would be a good idea to wipe that particular version from your laptop, I'm wondering if the problems you're experiencing have to do something else and not tied to the fact that it's enterprise?

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I was intending to remove win8 and go to win7. Part of the problem is just the useability of win8 (or lack thereof) and part of it is so many basic features are removed or broken.
 
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Personally I'm still waiting for M$ to declare that Windows 10 is no longer malware in the EULA and some confirmation that is true -- then I'll get rid of the hopeless 8. I do find 8.1 more usable but it's still hopeless garbage.
Are you referring to the keylogger, or something else?
 
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I was intending to remove win8 and go to win7. Part of the problem is just the useability of win8 (or lack thereof) and part of it is so many basic features are removed or broken.
Gotcha.
 
Old 05-27-2015, 06:21 PM   #35
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I will say, Win8.1 + Classic Shell is as usable as Win7, and better performance. I won't take it over Debian, but for Windows, with Classic Shell, it's totally usable IMO.
 
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Are you referring to the keylogger, or something else?
The keylogger. The EULA pretty much states that they can record anything you do and send it to anyone of their choosing for any purpose. I'm not keen on "anonymised data will be collected for debugging purposes" but this goes far, far further and well into spyware territory but at least they're honest about it.
 
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Anything with a keylogger should be classed as malware. You guys are turning me off windows 10 big time.

I don't use windows; I don't want windows; but occasionally I need windows, where linux compatibility falls down. Usually this is with heavy electronic software packages. These are usually licensed, and avoid technologies, and APIs well implemented in linux (e.g. OpenGL, perl, python) in favour of windows only things. But a 30 day trial of the package is enough to get most jobs done.

I've taken a 'note to self' to update windows 8.1 a bit more often.

/goes off to update Vista. God only knows when that was last updated.
 
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Anything with a keylogger should be classed as malware. You guys are turning me off windows 10 big time.
According to M$ the keylogger is for the evaluation version only and they suggest that it will be removed from the release version when it becomes a free upgrade. I'm really hoping so as Windows 10 is sufficiently less annoying than Windows 8.1 to make me want to upgrade (I've played with it in a VM).
 
  


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