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Old 03-04-2005, 07:41 PM   #136
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Re: Linux rocks too much.

Originally posted by nathanmoorehead
I was a 1-and-only-for-ever windows user. Then Windows Media Player 10 from Windows Update literally killed my computer. I mean instant 10-25% constant slowdowns and lockups. WMP after like version 6 is just bloatware. and THEN all my activation hoohaa happened. "Would you like to activate now?" 12 hours later "YOU MUST ACTIVATE TO USE YOUR COMPUTER!" no offense MS but 12 hours isn't 30 days, and I say when and how I use my machine umm NOT YOU. Thank Novell for Linux!

This longhorn will just be worse. It will just be more constricted and babied. I personally like Windows 2000 Pro best out of all the crap M$ has dished out. No fansy blue app, everything could be gutted. Rock hard stability (well as hard as MS stability gets)
I mean thank Novell for Suse 9.1
Old 03-04-2005, 08:06 PM   #137
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if Novell made linux, then well i probably would be using FreeBSD
Old 03-04-2005, 10:27 PM   #138
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That aside, what has Microsoft been doing all these years? Surely the gap should mean something! I mean other than putting a bloated gui. Is it possible to do a comparative analysis of the developments in the Windows vs GNU/Linux OSses?
(This seems like a dumb statement even to me, but why not...)

Btw, is the registry the equivalent of /etc? Someone mentioned that someone is actually selling this thing called regedit because no one knows about it anyway.
Old 03-05-2005, 12:04 PM   #139
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Originally posted by Megamieuwsel
Slightly better appearance than XP , but those icons still look like rejects from an asian candy-factory......
I think that XP's Luna theme actually looks better than Longhorn's default theme.
Old 03-06-2005, 08:43 PM   #140
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I said Suse

Originally posted by liquidtenmilion
if Novell made linux, then well i probably would be using FreeBSD
No, Novell didn't make Linux. Thousands of smart hardworking people made Linux. Novell helped developed the distribution of Linux named Suse 9.1.

That however is off topic so let's leave it be.

Anyway, I don't like the direction Microsoft is going in. Today my mom's computer threw out an error, randomly, right in the middle of working on her college homework in Word. That is Word 2000 under XP Home (and I realize neither Word 2000 nor XP Home are the latest from M$ but hey they should still work) Supposed to be a pretty stable combination, right? I don't call random errors stable, and causing her to loose some work a good thing. I hope Longhorn doesn't just add to the GUI, but also adds better stability.

That will be the day, Microsoft NOT randomly crashing for no apparent reason. LOL! riggggght
Old 03-06-2005, 11:30 PM   #141
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Actually, SuSE 9.1 is the last release that SuSE made without any real input from their Novell masters,...

Not that Novell is horrible. They are really behind SuSE. But they are still standing BEHIND SuSE...

As for Longhorn (is that a phalllic thing??? I wonder!), looks like crap. I seems to be an interface change,... nothing more. It's another upgrade of NT. M$ thinks that if they change the GUI, they change the guts. Problem is that the people are dumb enough to believe them. Upgrading an OS is about what it can do, not about what it looks like.

I can make my SuSE 9.1 box look like that now if I wanted...

I especially like the screen shots showing the crash error in Explorer.EXE and 180 day license agreement (wonder if that will become standard??? The old, "We own your box!!!" software rental thing?!?!?).
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I'm just saying that if novell, or any actual big corporation created and maintained linux, i would use it. Not that novell is bad, but that if novell single handedly created linux, then most likely it would be closed source, and i would be using FreeBSD.
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I don't think enough of you are considering the
'it's a fake' theory.

Think about it! Almost nothing has changed from the xp version, and the longhorn logo is everywhere. Do you really think there going to
stick with that name "Longhorn".
Old 03-13-2005, 05:53 AM   #144
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Yep, I think it more likely they will go with the name

Windows 2010...
Old 03-13-2005, 06:38 AM   #145
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Those are oolllllllld screenshots....

Second picture Build ID says 4008. Current (x86) external alpha build is 4074. They ditched that blue in 4074, it's now the very cool slate, and a new Plex, which looks like a frozen version of those screenshots.
Old 03-13-2005, 11:16 AM   #146
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Sorry dude these are fake as hell.

I know cause i have seen the real ui for longhorn.

Similar and a good try but fake.
Old 03-13-2005, 02:16 PM   #147
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Originally posted by liquidtenmilion
Nothing wrong with Ramen noodles

Yeah i have the pc i have right now, and i will probably... never upgrade. I will only upgrade when linux won't run on it. I ran the betas of longhorn on my pc, and based on the speed, i will have to upgrade if i want to run it. I mean it literally took 8 minutes to upgrade.

And i do agree with whatever someone said about more optimized should mean lower requirements. A company should first sort out the bugs of the kernel of the old OS, then add new features in it, and THEN they should add a gui that will slow your system to a crawl. The only problem with this is that most people who use windows aren't going to notice the improvements of the kernel, they will just go, "Oooo, this is pretty", and MS knows this, so it's main(obvious) priority is the appearance, not the stability or security.
Okay, I'm going to try to be as balanced as I can be, but bear with me:

Microsoft does a good job at what they do: If they didn't, they wouldn't have the market place they have right now. Granted, a lot of what they're good at is simply destroying competition either through lawsuits, buying them out, or making a product that looks nearly identical, but doesn't have nearly the same functionality (Windows partitioning software, anyone?) Anywho, Microsoft has 1 major flaw, and it's almost like it's too late for them to fix it.

When Microsoft moved from Windows ME to Windows XP, they took a very lazy approach. Rather than rewrite their API's and try to make them
a) more efficient
b) more secure
c) more stable

they simply lifted them from ME over to XP. They probably tweaked them once they copied the section over, but it also means that nobody knows what the hell is in the sections that they carried over. It also means that it's a gigantic web that's been done by a drunken spider on drugs: completely out of control.

If MS would just start a new OS from the ground up, without copying over sections, I'm sure they could make something very powerful and much more secure, stable, and efficient. They have thousands upon thousands of programmers, and if they gave each programmer (or team of programmers) a form of how the API format should be, they could have a new OS up in a relatively short time. However, if they continue with the approach of layering one thing upon another, they will have a hell of a time trying to get any further additions to work with their systems.

Basically, MS should choose the Apple approach: start over, and if need be, have a single program/package (that would be purely OPTIONAL) to emulate the old OS so people can still use their old software.

Sorry, but if Longhorn is going to be Windows XP 2, it's not going to be worth it. They gave up on the new file system, they've renamed the DRM project (and left it in Longhorn), and so for the average user, there's not going to be any advantages, probably not even any eyecandy that they couldn't get with XP and some random eyecandy programs/hacks.
Old 03-13-2005, 05:50 PM   #148
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Those aren't fake.

I know for a fact because i have attained both Longhorn 4051 and 4074 through the usuall means one would obtain these.

Those are actually real screenshots, they are just of a really old build. In 4051 they switched to using slate as default, which is like a dark grey theme, with big blue back and forward buttons.

Other than that very little has changed from XP. Same start menu, etc.


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