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View Poll Results: Presidential Poll.
Donald Trump 6 22.22%
Hillary Clinton 11 40.74%
Gary Johnson 3 11.11%
Jill Stein 7 25.93%
Voters: 27. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 09-08-2016, 12:44 AM   #16
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Note that as per this poll if Hilary and Jill combined their votes, they would get 58% of the votes cast. That is more than what Abe Lincoln got. It is also more than the 42% Trump+Johnson would get.

LIBS v LIBERTARIANS

That would be interesting.

At that, it is a curious thing that even though this is a presidential type election (direct votes), sometimes the person who gets most votes nationally doesn't get to be declared the winner.

OK

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Old 09-08-2016, 05:25 AM   #17
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Trump is not a racist.
That statement is either a result of hysterical blindness, delusion or both. He's a Silver Spoon Good Ol' Boy and a phony rabble rouser. It is now well documented starting with the Justice Department suing his company twice for not renting to black people or claiming ignorance of the KKK as a racist organization. Don't even get me started about his 'stance" on Mexicans.
 
Old 09-08-2016, 08:53 PM   #18
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That statement is either a result of hysterical blindness, delusion or both. He's a Silver Spoon Good Ol' Boy and a phony rabble rouser. It is now well documented starting with the Justice Department suing his company twice for not renting to black people or claiming ignorance of the KKK as a racist organization. Don't even get me started about his 'stance" on Mexicans.
He is not racist. Trump only said that he was going to get rid of illegal immigrants,not the all of the Mexicans.
 
Old 09-08-2016, 09:13 PM   #19
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He is not racist. Trump only said that he was going to get rid of illegal immigrants,not the all of the Mexicans.
I strongly urge you to Google (or use your fave search engine) "Trump Racism". There are lists and videos of constant racism from him, which, considering his background and demeanor, should be expected but NOT denied.
 
Old 09-08-2016, 09:20 PM   #20
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All you need to know about Jill Stein is encapsulated here: http://boingboing.net/2016/08/01/jil...mongering.html

As for Trumps and racism, my local rag recently looked into the past: http://pilotonline.com/news/local/tr...0f6827d03.html

I'm a Southern Boy. I grew up under Jim Crow and went to segregated schools. I know all the code words, every single one and can interpret them for you if you wish. I have worked to expunge as best I can the poison I absorbed from the world around me when I was growing up.

I know a bigot when I see one. Lord knows, I've seen enough.

Trump makes George Wallace look genteel.

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Old 09-09-2016, 12:58 PM   #21
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I can't in all decency cast a vote for a mock American presidential election when I was so furious with that bloody foreigner Obama telling us how to vote in the EU referendum!
I know how you feel, but you can still vote for Hillary. Presidential attitudes to Britain generally depend on how much family connection they have to us. Those with British ancestry, like Clinton and Reagan, have been friendly, while Roosevelt (Dutch), Eisenhower (German), and Obama (Kenyan) have been indifferent or hostile.

And how about Garry "What's Aleppo?" Johnson! Apparently on a previous occasion he had to ask who Harriet Tubman was, too.
 
Old 09-09-2016, 01:30 PM   #22
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It really is a shame that the population of the United States has to endure the continued humiliation of this presidential farce!!
 
Old 09-10-2016, 01:14 AM   #23
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I know how you feel, but you can still vote for Hillary.
Are you mad? I wouldn't vote for that lump of political corruption if I was American.
 
Old 09-10-2016, 02:26 AM   #24
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Speaking of Hillary a quote from Eric Margolis:

"Hillary Clinton said this week that if elected president she would advance ‘American exceptionalism’ and assure the new world order. These are code terms for imperialism and hegemony. If Clinton wins, look forward to foreign and military policy directed by Goldman Sachs and the neoconservatives."-Eric Margolis
 
Old 09-10-2016, 12:29 PM   #25
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All you need to know about Jill Stein is encapsulated here: http://boingboing.net/2016/08/01/jil...mongering.html

As for Trumps and racism, my local rag recently looked into the past: http://pilotonline.com/news/local/tr...0f6827d03.html

I'm a Southern Boy. I grew up under Jim Crow and went to segregated schools. I know all the code words, every single one and can interpret them for you if you wish. I have worked to expunge as best I can the poison I absorbed from the world around me when I was growing up.

I know a bigot when I see one. Lord knows, I've seen enough.

Trump makes George Wallace look genteel.
I happen to believe that we all have a bit of innate 'racism' within us. It's how we control those feelings that matter. For instance, if you actually look at the things that Lincoln said and wrote, he was every bit as much of a segregationist as G. Wallace. For me, Trump is the 'lesser of two evils' and will get my vote. I hope that doesn't tar me with the #BasketofDeplorables appellation that HRC used for approx. 23% of the American electorate yesterday simply because they support Trump over her. Perhaps she has forgotten calling much of the black youth in this country "superpredators" in 1996: Dare to disagree with HRC and she labels you - Hillary Clinton - 2016/09/08: "...you can put half of Trump supporters into what I call the 'basket of deplorables.' Right? Racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic, you name it. ...". "Trump's senior communications adviser, Jason Miller, said Clinton had "ripped off her mask and revealed her true contempt for everyday Americans."
"Tonight's comments were more than another example of Clinton lying to the country about her emails, jeopardizing our national security, or even calling citizens 'super-predators'," he said in a statement." http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016...rables-n646026

Hillary Clinton - 1996 - "They are not just gangs of kids anymore. They are often the kinds of kids that are called ‘superpredators.’ No conscience, no empathy. We can talk about why they ended up that way, but first we have to bring them to heel.” - Statement at New Hampshire's Keene State College. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k4nmRZx9nc
 
Old 09-10-2016, 01:48 PM   #26
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I really hope that I am wrong with this thought; but I really believe that it does not matter who wins the United States presidential election this November, there is going to be serious turmoil and serious violence throughout this country because of all the hate being flung by the candidates and their surrogates leading up to the actual vote!!
 
Old 09-10-2016, 06:24 PM   #27
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<snip> For me, Trump is the 'lesser of two evils' and will get my vote.
So you think someone who is either unaware of his bias or actively lies and hides it is the lesser of evils compared to one who is more aware and says more of what they mean?
 
Old 09-11-2016, 09:28 AM   #28
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So you think someone who is either unaware of his bias or actively lies and hides it is the lesser of evils compared to one who is more aware and says more of what they mean?
I think that statement is too simplistic to capture what I meant. I'm unabashedly a social and fiscal conservative. For me, the bedrock issue of this election is who shapes the supreme Court of the United States (s)COTUS for the next 30 years. The 2nd Amendment, that portion of the 1st Amendment concerning religion so often trampled upon by Liberals/Progressives - "or prohibiting the free exercise thereof", and many other issues dear to many conservatives are in jeopardy, IMO, with a Clinton victory.
Both of these candidates are liars but for me Hillary's documented 30 year odyssey of flip-flopping on seminal issues is stark and disqualifying. Trump's record is also abysmal but his election MAY restore a conservative bent to (s)COTUS and for me, that is enough.
 
Old 09-11-2016, 02:20 PM   #29
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‘American exceptionalism’
i had to look this one up.
almost as baffling as intelligent design!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligent_design
 
Old 09-11-2016, 06:31 PM   #30
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Those with British ancestry, like Clinton and Reagan, have been friendly, while Roosevelt (Dutch), Eisenhower (German), and Obama (Kenyan) have been indifferent or hostile.
I think that both Roosevelt and Eisenhower were strong friends of Great Britain and very hostile to the British Empire. The ultimate example of that hostility was America's actions in the Suez crises of 1956.

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