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Old 09-16-2016, 12:09 PM   #61
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To me my vote is a precious thing and I do not pull the lever without thought and research. If you listen to all the politicians and cannot discern their intent then I feel for you. Let the scales fall from your eyes soon before you make that vote.

Our country (USA) is deep in debt both monetarily and treasure of blood from our support or policing of the world problems. We have freely supported other countries after wars by restructuring the war torn countrysides and supporting individual growth of the members of the same by providing means rebuilding of the countries infrastructures and rebuilding industries to employ the locals. Sure we get a big thank you but no real funding back for the expenses laid by the USA citizens. That debt has been building for decades and now the USA will be paying 1 trillion of interest on that debt which is sorely needed to be used in rebuilding here at home in the USA.

I am not an isolationist but I do believe in helping my neighbor but I also do believe one has responsibilities to one's own house to be in order.

As to who I support, that is very personal to me and will share openly face to face but not here at LQ. Do I believe that I am blessed for living here in the USA? Yes, I have had opportunities that everyone does not have. But I did put a lot into my education to allow my gains throughout my life. Early in my life, I realized that you are not given anything but must earn it if you wish to achieve. Long hours and monies to allow my education to allow such.

Do I think the entitlements are there for everyone? Yes, but it is too freely given and most times not really appreciated. I come from academia and I would see students with aid just not follow through with their education. If they would have some skin in the education then I am sure they would achieve and thus benefit from their grants.

Democrat planks are just making promises in order to get votes. Look at some of the biggest problems in our cities. Cities like Chicago have some of the worst problems and the Democrats have been making things worse for their citizens. Look at Flint, Mi to see what the Democratic controlled city has become. I could go on and on about city problems caused by Democratic controls. I'm not just talking about police issues but basic human needs for the citizens.

I fault our education systems for problems within that train individuals via liberal means and not educating the students in civics or even history. Just a liberal presentation as to how things should be. I noticed locally that elementary students do not use any true writing skills nor are they taught to have writing or composition skills. Sure, we have a digital world but does that help the student to have free thoughts or how to really compose? Smilies/Icons are not something to exhibit your true thoughts of conveyance nor is SMS text

I always ask my Grandchildren how many books they have read?. Blank faces & response. Ask them about how many likes or friends they have and they babel on and on. Reading is a gift that should be used to extend ones understandings. As a Gnu/Linux user, I am sure most have been answered with; 'Please RTFM' at some time here at LQ.

As to voting, I say; 'Please read & understand the candidate's platforms/issues'. Then discern! Then vote!

Hope this helps!
 
Old 09-16-2016, 08:56 PM   #62
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Errrr,





Errrrr.



Never mind.
You CAN accuse and convict them if they actually broke the law! Just to be clear. The burden of proof is heavy.

In the 50's they wanted us to THINK, but to THINK LIKE THEY DID! In the '60s we made it clear we could think for ourselves. Now we have generations of 'followers', many of whom seem to have trouble thinking critically, weighing evidence, and thinking for themselves. Dang!
We waged these wars once before, and I thought we had WON!

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Old 09-16-2016, 09:30 PM   #63
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Mark Twain said it well- "Patriot: the person who can holler the loudest without knowing what he is hollering about"
 
Old 09-16-2016, 10:20 PM   #64
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqibSCutqCk

'nuff said.
 
Old 09-17-2016, 04:11 AM   #65
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"as a white person we don't really know what our culture is"
:lol:

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Old 09-17-2016, 10:23 AM   #66
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Yup Culture is racial..... HUMAN RACE-ial! It's curious to me that so often racists are also Evolution deniers but yet consider variations in geography and the resulting minor pigment difference as if they are a separate species. That Trump supporter guy in the above link want's European Culture. I guess he isn't aware European culture isn't just one thing and is going through massive changes just like almost everywhere else that has communication and commerce. Gee, maybe he'd prefer Isolated Tribes? Yeah that's it! Let's go back to being Hunter-Gatherers! <sarc>
 
Old 09-19-2016, 12:43 AM   #67
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"as a white person we don't really know what our culture is"
:lol:
Exactly! I think identatarianism is rotting his brain.

enorbet, the ones like the guy in the video adopted social Darwinism. They are around 100 years behind the Progressives in thought. They rant and rave about genes like they understand what they do. He wants a white version of Israel for himself.
 
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Thanks RadicalDreamer but I think I get it. The ultimate end of so-called Racial Purity is an untenable gene pool since by the time one eliminates/ostracizes/withdraws from all of the "types" one finds objectionable and not "pure/pious enough" there are very few left.

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Old 09-19-2016, 10:46 AM   #69
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Thanks RadicalDreamer but I think I get it. The ultimate end of s-called Racial Purity is an untenable gene pool since by the time one eliminates/ostracizes/withdraws from all of the "types" one finds objectionable and not "pure/pious enough" there are very few left.
In the Austro-Hungarian empire, you didn't count as noble unless you had 16 quarterings on your coat of arms. That means that not just your parents or grandparents or even your great-grandparents were noble, but all 16 of your great-great-grandparents. I believe the SS had similar requirements for the Aryan descent of applicants.
 
Old 09-19-2016, 12:27 PM   #70
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Yes, Hazel, such requirements were quite common and that was exactly my point. 16 quarterings is nowhere near a tenable gene pool by an order of magnitude which is why the term "Blue Bloods", referring mainly to hemophiliacs (bleeders) resulting from recessive genes. was coined.

If you have interest, and from another thread you started I conclude you likely do, here is how Genes pools work. Judging from your obvious education you also likely already know much of this but some details and examples are probably helpful.

--- The Nature and Workings of Gene Pools ---
 
Old 09-20-2016, 12:25 AM   #71
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I think you are wrong about "blue blood". The story I heard is that it was originally a Spanish term referring to people whose skin was pale enough for the veins to show blue at the wrists, thereby supposedly proving that they had no Moorish ancestry. Haemophiliac blood is red like anyone else's. But thanks for the link.
 
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I think you are wrong about "blue blood". The story I heard is that it was originally a Spanish term referring to people whose skin was pale enough for the veins to show blue at the wrists, thereby supposedly proving that they had no Moorish ancestry. Haemophiliac blood is red like anyone else's. But thanks for the link.
You are partly right and I am not wrong. Yes hemophiliacs have red blood but that actuality has nothing to do with what people then believed. Also, when I say "then" it is a very long time ago as many scholars find references so old that they conclude it may predate recorded history, long before the Umayyad conquest of Hispania circa 750 AD.

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We can be very certain that the combination of a very unique RH factor along with the Blueing effect of high use of Silver with very translucent skin created the term Blue Blood. There is no doubt that the common person or peasant would marvel at the skin and the pronounced Blue color of the Royal blood coursing through the Royal veins.
** Full Article Here ===>>> --- Derivation of Blue Blood ---

There were numerous factors that went into the perception of both the nobility and peasantry but among them was the recognition of degeneracy. They just didn't yet understand the limited Gene Pool as a cause.
 
Old 09-21-2016, 03:06 AM   #73
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without looking at gene science.

i sometimes see extremely pale people, they probably also don't do any sports, work sitting and indoors.
and their veins really stand out. blue.

i can understand how a farmer (sunburnt complexion, muscled, healthy because of eating fresh produce - please understand we're talking about pre-industrial times here) sees a person like that as an almost-alien marvel, to the point of coining a phrase (blueblood).

it's as clear as day to me, and genepools, reduced or not, don't come into it.
 
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without looking at gene science.

i sometimes see extremely pale people, they probably also don't do any sports, work sitting and indoors.
and their veins really stand out. blue.

i can understand how a farmer (sunburnt complexion, muscled, healthy because of eating fresh produce - please understand we're talking about pre-industrial times here) sees a person like that as an almost-alien marvel, to the point of coining a phrase (blueblood).

it's as clear as day to me, and genepools, reduced or not, don't come into it.
You are exactly correct right up until the last sentence. I brought up Gene Pools to note that the end result of so-called "racial purity" is reduced gene pool size and diversity, resulting in degeneracy. This can be as simple and relatively invisible as poor immune response, more congenital vulnerability to disease right up to outrageously apparent defects like hemophilia, idiocy, hydroencephalitis, etc etc and apparently as well, as an irrational sense of superiority
 
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You are exactly correct right up until the last sentence. I brought up Gene Pools to note that the end result of so-called "racial purity" is reduced gene pool size and diversity, resulting in degeneracy. This can be as simple and relatively invisible as poor immune response, more congenital vulnerability to disease right up to outrageously apparent defects like hemophilia, idiocy, hydroencephalitis, etc etc and apparently as well, as an irrational sense of superiority
A classic example of this is the history of the Spanish Habsburgs. The Habsburgs put their empire together by marrying heiresses. That was how they acquired Carinthia and Tyrol, then Bohemia, Hungary, Burgundy and the Low Countries, and finally Spain. But they were terrified of somebody doing the same thing to them, so Habsburg women always married cousins. I believe one Spanish Habsburg even married her uncle (it seems you could do anything in those days if you got a papal dispensation).

The inevitable result was a sickly and eventually sterile line. The very thing they feared happened. They were left with just one female heir and the King of France's brother married her and took Spain. That's why the present-day Spanish royal family are Bourbons.

Though what this has to do with Donald Trump, Clinton only knows!
 
  


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