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Old 05-11-2004, 09:16 AM   #1
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Linux - Thoughts and Forecasts

For me, the real, core Linux users are a different breed. I'm not referring to the 12 year olds who spend all their free time tweaking with their computer, or those who constantly post questions instead of searching properly (I'm guilty of that on a few occassions), or even the core developers. The users I'm talking about are those average guys or gals, with balanced lives, enjoy other activities and know when to call it a day. They can help themselves, and are generally well-educated people. Though, they know when to ask for help, and how to ask for it. Generally they are patient people, who don't try to force things, but rather figure out a problem slowly, carefully, and learn while they do it. They are against "quick-fixes", not just in Linux, but in life generally. They want to know the details, and keep note of them for the future.

I think that too many people are after quick-fixes, not just in the computer world, but it reflects in their business activities and all their achievements. I also that the future will heavily depend on computers and technology (it already does now) and that it's important to know exactly what you're running on your system and that ATM machines and electronic banking etc. is conducted and run on the most secure system, which I believe would be based on some form of embedded Linux. The "exposed" way of testing the software is brilliant, rather than confining them to labs. It's the best way.

I used to be all about Linux for Desktop. Now I look back, I feel a bit stupid. Yes, it's quite possible for Linux to make it the desktop. However, I think the culture will change. It will no longer be a "help yourself first" mentality, as people simply refuse to read documentation. My forecast is a fork (in true Linux spirit) in users - those who I mentioned above, and the LCDs (lowest common denominators). I'm accepting of this, but I think it seems to ruin what Linux is about.

But, I'm all for new Linux users... increasing the userbase, increasing demand, in turn increasing supply of supported games and software, etc.. moving away from the conventional thoughts and embracing a new, Open future. Though, I would like to see a shift in thought.. that comparable to the AOL User.. to those who would like to take a look under the hood for once.

What a great thought though. This would save people millions of dollars - in bandwidth, stolen credit card numbers, scams - (home users leaving their computers open to be used in dDoS attacks, people opening up viruses, having really shoddy passwords, anyone?) If people just took some time to "get a clue," we'd all be breathing easier.

However, I'm a dreamer
Old 05-11-2004, 09:31 AM   #2
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I was with ya for the first three paragraphs or so, then you lost me. On this general subject tho I feel that GNU/Linux is about creating a free/open-source equivalent of (or superior to) Unix. That's it. Period. Everything else -- linux on the desktop; embedded linux; linux advocacy -- is stuff that other well-meaning (and/or entrepreneurial) ppl have tacked on to it.

Corporations are using linux as servers b/c Unix is an awesome OS and GNU/Linux finally reached a point where it was stable enough to do the job -- ALL FOR FREE. Taking it to the desktop now is the realm of organizations like Gnome or KDE or OO. As they get better and better at copying what is already out there (i.e. MS Office), that too will eventually spread out. As sheep-minded John Q Public sees that "the big guys" trust/use linux on the desktop (and mebbe get experience with it at work), they too will migrate to it in ever increasing numbers.

Right now it may be too early, but if those orgs keep at it it will come. It will ALL come in time. Naturally.

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Old 05-11-2004, 12:09 PM   #3
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irt makes sense, what did unix start out as, or the computer, pascal created his calucalator to help his tax collection father get more time. If linux becomes commercial, that is to say an os for your avrage surfer the colture of linux must change. programmer will be forced to spend more time on createing a working gui for all programs, everthing must come compilled and will you do this, no real networks will or big huge games, or corel. As we progress we will be come more like windows and i'm afraid redhat is the first sign so we must make a choice to conquer the world and try to maintainour values or stay hidden in the shadows and let o other orgnztion take on longhorn

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Old 05-11-2004, 01:50 PM   #4
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Originally posted by pepsi
If linux becomes commercial, that is to say an os for your avrage surfer the colture of linux must change. programmer will be forced to spend more time on createing a working gui for all programs..
Umm, why? why must the culture change? none of what you're saying makes any sense if you understand the concept of separating what is truly linux from what is peripheral.

until the (doom's)day when linus himself makes linux closed-source and/or commercial (i.e. what red hat does is incidental to the core culture), i don't see what you portend happening at all. can you explain your thinking (and, if english is not your native language, i beg that you slow down and proof your posts b/c it's really hard to follow what you're saying -- assuming you're not a troll in the first place )

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