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Old 10-11-2006, 03:30 AM   #661
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Well, "freshly" my Gentoo box can boot in about 20 seconds. That is without a lot of software of course, which when you install a fresh copy of windoze is exactly what you get. After all, windoze is the OS and not much else. After rebooting about 5 or 6 times then you can install the software and such.

My point is that I have more stuff running than most windoze boxes and mine will still boot faster than windoze. Only exception is when the router takes to long to get the DHCP info and it stops to wait on it. Got to have the network.

 
Old 10-11-2006, 11:23 AM   #662
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Just get gentoo to use upstart insted of init and your box won't need to pause booting to wait for the network.
 
Old 10-21-2006, 05:38 AM   #663
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Can you live without linux?
Quote:
Originally Posted by greenshade9
The answer is a big yes. Reason?
Linux is slower than Windows.
Linux programs are harder to update and install.
Linux is not as user-friendly as Windows in a myriad of different ways.
Dual-booting will generally lead to problems, in time. I just deleted all partitions for Linux and it will be a long time before I ever use it again. I was using FC3, one of the most "user-friendly" of all Linux, supposedly, but it just never did a thing for me. I'll stay with Windows.
AHAHAHAHA! you loser! you may try to fool us bill gates but we know it's you! LOL, I love how easily frustrated newbs get.
First FC3 is NOOOOOOOOOOOT the most user-friendly, infact because it's ALWAYS in beta it's a mighty hard F'er! FC3 exists to help the RHE development team and not the FC user, if you want to help redhat then use FC else use something a little more stable, something like Deb or Deb based (can't get much more stable than that.) All those using FC PLEEEASE switch to ubuntu.
Linux programs are harder to update and install :0 are you drunk, ever hear of a repository!? Takes me 50 seconds with 5 clicks of a mouse to install roughly 8 programs, I would like to see the same comparison made to windows.
Tut Tut, don't dual boot! Use Xen, virtual machines are the way forward especialy with the new virtualisation in the recently released processors.
Linux is slower? how? boot time?? if so, who cares. If you however mean performance with programs then let me tell you, my games have never run faster, I think the ability to reduce my operating system down to about 10 processes with one command really helps there.

Sorry.

Last edited by jkh; 10-21-2006 at 05:44 AM.
 
Old 10-21-2006, 05:55 AM   #664
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And if he wants to complain about boot time, you don't have to reboot Linux like you do windoze. It is a lot faster to boot Linux once than to reboot windoze every day, sometimes more than once a day at that.

I have noticed that my box gets faster as it runs longer, especially when the memory is full of cache. It sure helps.

 
Old 10-21-2006, 06:06 AM   #665
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OP:
Linux is a wonderful platform, but I wonder how many people use only linux for all of their computing needs. Does anybody use linux and linux only for programming, browsing, GAMING, text editing, movie editing?
Yes.

Programming: C, x86 ASM, Python, PHP [and bash shell scripting if you consider it programming].
Browsing: Mozilla Firefox, soon to be IceWeasel I suppose.
Gaming: [I don't know why you wrote it in capitals] Armagetron AD is all I need every now and then.
Text editing: VIM for life.
Movie Editing: Nope, but I wouldn't do that if I had any other OS anyway.

At the moment of this post, I'm running Debian GNU/Linux -unstable.

P.S.: Sorry it took 4 years for me to reply. Better nate than lever.

Last edited by introuble; 10-21-2006 at 06:08 AM.
 
Old 10-22-2006, 01:57 AM   #666
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jkh
Linux is slower? how? boot time?? if so, who cares.
If you think about it, Linux dosen't take all that long to boot for a couple of reasons:
1. After windows boots (i.e. you get to the login screen), it's not actually done booting! It's still starting all it's services. For me boot time it the time it takes from power-on untill all the services etc are started and the system stops "wurring", Linux is much faster than that. On a normal install, most services are started before X anyway, so by the time you are ready to login the system has finished booting.
2. In Ubuntu Edgy (6.10), Init has been compleetly re-written and replaced with Upstart, an event based startup system. My system it finished booting and in to X in about 20 seconds, beet that Windows! And shutdown is extreemly fast too, so when you do have to reboot (e.g. you install a new/updated kernel) you have a verry small downtime.
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If you however mean performance with programs then let me tell you, my games have never run faster, I think the ability to reduce my operating system down to about 10 processes with one command really helps there.
Agreed, windows programs don't run any faster than Linux ones, in fact they are usually slower.W indows apps (especially GUIs) have all the functions built-in. So if you have 2 encoder apps, then you'll have 2 apps that have there own versions of the encoders in there. On Linux you can use external apps (like ffmpeg), that are much smaller than the windows counterparts and so use less resources.
 
Old 10-27-2006, 04:36 AM   #667
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Hell Yeah!!!!

One of my friends said that I can't do on linux what he does on windows.
So I bet him a 100 bucks.
Guess who won!

1.Playing games like Doom3,Quake4,NFS undergroung2 and Simcity4. Got them all to work, if not better!!!
2.Listening to music via optical cable to digital reciever.Better sound quality than windows.
3.Making backups of our dvds. Worked
4.Uptime..... Won by faaaaaaaaar! Should've bet per hour!!!
 
Old 10-27-2006, 08:26 AM   #668
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I can live without Windows I now only have FC5 (almost FC6 (need a writeble dvd:P)) installed
I sometimes have some trouble installing new packages but now I have Unreal Tournament GOTY running and Warcraft III running via wine with help from this and other forums... but I never want to get back to Windozze..
 
Old 10-27-2006, 08:30 AM   #669
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NO!!!! I can't live without Windows. How else would all the computer dummies get to my websites & ebay to spend money on the stuff I want to sell.
 
Old 10-27-2006, 09:17 AM   #670
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How else would all the computer dummies get to my websites & ebay to spend money on the stuff I want to sell.
LOL

if you look at it that way then no

but i do not own a windows machine (i have to use one at work [sigh/]but with cygwin, and LS and vim for dos it makes things bearable (and firefox of cource)

no my machine at hoem is purely SUSE10.1
and i can
Program: im no good at programming anyway", woudl like to learn thiogh, but i regually comopile stuff to runs so i know it works)

Text edit, VI FOREVER!!!!! elce openoffice/koffice
browse: firefox opera, flock, konqueor or Lynx im at home with all (even Lynx beats IE)

game... OPENTTD, Westnoth, SuperTUX what more do i need?

listen to music/wach vids,
Xine + Amorak & kaffieine , mplayer, real 10 what more do i need

burn CDs? K3B all teh way.... bURN DVDs? well if i had a DVD+-RW drive i would

rip Cds to MP3? K audio center + lame...

so yse i can live without windows
 
Old 10-27-2006, 11:56 AM   #671
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one of the best posting in this thread ... ^_^

yup ... about that dvd stuffs ... i believe that anything above plain cdroms is a waste of time and resources ... better stick to usb hardwares ...


well ... "at least that benefits me ..."


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Old 10-31-2006, 09:21 AM   #672
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I have been using Linux for a couple of years now. I started out with Lindows/Linspire, but that was (to me at least) not really what I hoped for.

I tried RedHat for a little while with Gnome, but that too wasn't really meeting my expectations.

Then I got into SuSE 8.1 KDE and moved later onto 9.1 that I am still using to this day.

Windows I only need to play the Flight Simulator and Winamp. Yeah, shame on me ...

I do not need Windows to do the things that I want to do, however, Winamp is what I really need to have under SuSE. I downloaded some alphabeta version but it does not run at all.

And xmms/xine does not show more than a small black rectangle that is doing nothing but calling me names (error messages) and occupying my precious TFT.

Open Office runs fine and I can exchange documents of all kinds with those who find themselves in Microsoft herd of Windows cattle.

Yes, I can live without Windows. I could live without Windows when I was running CPM and DOS decades ago. I could live without Windows when I was using a Remington typewriter and carbon paper half a century ago. Today I can create websites and do my emails and office stuff, just using Linux.

In fact, I can only proudly walk through the Doors of life without having to open Windows ...

Oh, by the way, how do I get that dammed Winamp running under SuSE 9.1 ?

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Old 10-31-2006, 10:16 AM   #673
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Oh, by the way, how do I get that dammed Winamp running under SuSE 9.1 ?
There is no need to run Winamp. XMMS is a winamp clone built for Linux. Audacious is another clone (much better IMO).
 
Old 10-31-2006, 02:16 PM   #674
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I did try anything in my power to get XMMS running in SuSE 9.1. But in vain.

The sad thing about SuSE 9.x is that there aren't any updates anymore since 10.x came out.

I'll give Audacious a try. Never heard of it before.
 
Old 10-31-2006, 02:59 PM   #675
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Originally Posted by dojodate
I did try anything in my power to get XMMS running in SuSE 9.1. But in vain.

The sad thing about SuSE 9.x is that there aren't any updates anymore since 10.x came out.

I'll give Audacious a try. Never heard of it before.
Why are you trying to use SUSE 9.x when you know that it is outdated? Not saying you're stupid or flaming you or trying to start a fight or anything... I mean, I'm just wondering why.
 
  


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