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I get tired of poeple like you bitching about editing configuration files of running commands
idots like you should stay with windows insted of wanting linux turned in to windows
Ok, Linux is NOT Windows and never will be. Learn how to do things the Linux way and you'll be fine. Spending time wanting it to be "just like Windows" is a waste of time and energy and just results in frustration.
The things you mentioned having trouble installing are all quite easy tasks. I suspect that the problem lies behind the keyboard.
Perhaps the distro you are using is simply not the right one for you. There's a reason why there are so many, everyone has different needs and expectations. I've used all of the major distros and a good many of the minor ones and they all have their own little quirks. Find one that generally works for you and work through the small stuff that presents issues.
Perhaps you should spend a little time, like a year, using something like Slackware. You may gain a new appreciation for how Linux works. It's simple, straight forward, and requires you to actually learn how Linux is supposed to work.
I'm not an administrator, I'm a truck driver. Just a user, plain and simple. I'm also no spring chicken. Maybe the only real difference is that I actually wanted to learn?
It gets really annoying when installing something simple takes forever. I am not talking about installing Oracle database.
Currently, I am trying to install:
1. vmware (took me 2 days)
2. vnc (2 days, then gave up)
3. JRE (2 days, still fighting)
4. PCanywhere (3 days, gave up)
If anybody can help me on there, I would very grateful.
In Windows, a total new person can install all of them within the hour provided s/he knows how to read instructions.
IF your running KDE later than 3.1 and you tack the time to look around in the menus
you will find that you already have a VNC client and server installed already
The only thing I can say is, if they don't like linux, DON'T USE IT. Just restore your MBR, delete the linux partition and reformat your free space to fat32 or ntfs.
The only thing I can say is, if they don't like linux, DON'T USE IT. Just restore your MBR, delete the linux partition and reformat your free space to fat32 or ntfs.
No more linux worries.
Simple common sense.
If a person who found Linux too hard to install and use, why do you really expect them to understand what an MBR is, what a partition is, or let alone what FAT32 or NTFS is? They probably won't know what these things are, so it wouldn't be common sense to them. Saying that this is common sense is synonymous to insulting them.
If a person who found Linux too hard to install and use, why do you really expect them to understand what an MBR is, what a partition is, or let alone what FAT32 or NTFS is? They probably won't know what these things are, so it wouldn't be common sense to them. Saying that this is common sense is synonymous to insulting them.
First of all, I don't insult people. If you look at my post history, all 114, you'll see I never, ever called anyone stupid, idiot or anything nasty. I merely argue a viewpoint or opinion. Second, I'm writing in the assumption they know what a mbr,partition is. If they installed linux, they have to know what a partition is...unless someone install linux for them or they brought a preinstall linux box. I don't insult people even if they use windows.
You may not directly insult people, but my point was that stating something that you deem to be common sense and expecting others to feel the same can be insulting when they don't know what it is. If they don't know, what you've stated is then the same as saying that they don't have common sense. That can be insulting.
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Originally Posted by dv502
Second, I'm writing in the assumption they know what a mbr,partition is. If they installed linux, they have to know what a partition is...unless someone install linux for them or they brought a preinstall linux box.
If they've installed Linux, why would they need to know what a partition and/or MBR is? I think this is an inaccurate assumption to make.
Wasn't this thread about a windows user frustrated trying to install software in linux?
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Originally Posted by ak_random
If they've installed Linux, why would they need to know what a partition and/or MBR is? I think this is an inaccurate assumption to make.
It seems this thread is spawning into other topics. Look, I get your meaning that is not mandatory to know hard drive partitioning and/or hardware setup as most distros will handle this during installation with little user intervention.
The point I'm making is if you don't like the default setup your distro is giving you, then you need to know stuff like hard drive partitioning if you want separate file systems, and networking if you want custom setup instead of the default dhcp.
In otherwords, some users are technical and some are not.
I'm not going back and fourth with this as this will bore other people. We just have our own opinions and should leave it as that.
In otherwords, some users are technical and some are not.
No kidding, but I found it distasteful when you said it was "common sense" to "Just restore your MBR, delete the linux partition and reformat your free space to fat32 or ntfs" when obviously for many this would not be common sense.
I kind of doubt the_stuped ever in his wildest dreams thought he would get this hostile of a reaction from this thread as he has gotten
a war between linux and windows never happen tux would never try to hurt anybody or anything after all tux was and is a labor of love
an allout attack on linux from M$ well that's another story and it has been going on for years
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