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Old 08-20-2020, 11:19 AM   #1
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Links to Useful Covid Statistical Data?


I've been looking at bing.com/covid to keep up to date, which is actually better than I've come to expect from M$. It's difficult to check much beyond totals, however. Has anyone come across better sites?
2 metrics that seem extremely useful are:
  • 7 day average, i.e the last 7 days new cases added up & divided by 7. This is a rolling average but gives an indication on new cases, especially where the statistics are erratic. Bing never mentions that.
  • New Cases (or deaths) per 100,000 of the population.That's the standard one, but it can be deaths, hospitalizations, etc. This statistic allows you to compare small countries and large ones. Both statistics can be coupled, i.e. average cases per 100,000 of population. This is used as a metric for air travel in Europe. For certain Ireland flew the virus in that way, and have no interest in doing so again.

Also, everybody raves about the statistics gathered by the John Hopkins University. Have they a website that's updated? We're having a bit of a second wave here (Ireland), there's a few counties locked down and clusters (a few meat plants, old people's homes and a mushroom farm) so we're watching ourselves again and going around with masks like bandits, but it's nothing major. The powers that be are wringing hands, but not putting on Jackboots.
 
Old 08-20-2020, 12:12 PM   #2
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I use this one, but I try not to 100% buy into it all necessarily being accurate: https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
 
Old 08-20-2020, 01:59 PM   #3
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Also, everybody raves about the statistics gathered by the John Hopkins University. Have they a website that's updated?
Yes, but they seem to be focused on the US (that is, they have more kinds of stats and measures for US states than other countries). For example, compare https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/ireland to https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/region/us/new-york.
 
Old 08-20-2020, 07:48 PM   #4
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Johns Hopkins University's tracking effort is highly thought of: https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
 
Old 08-21-2020, 05:09 AM   #5
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Thanks for the replies

The John Hopkins links stopped my browser. All the .js froze it, and I'd get up messages: "This script is still running. Kill it, or just sit here?" Very fancy graphics, I'm sure. I tried with firefox, but it's no better. Probably it's fighting with my sucky graphics or cpu.

The worldometer page is good. You can choose columns. It has populations, so I'll can choose the '1 x ppl' comumn or it's trivial to calculate. I can get a 7 day rolling average from bing.com/covid by reading their graphs (expanded). So I'm good to go without touching John Hopkins.
 
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I think I have my solution.

In bing.com/covid, I can get today's new case figures(USA=119,900), expand the graph of recent case numbers and add the previous 6 day's new cases (431424) and divide by 7 for a 7 day average =61,632. The population of the USA is 331,277,530 so for cases/100,000 I divide 61632 by 3312.77 = 18.60.

Repeat the figures for Ireland, where we're having it easy but with a bit of a second wave, our 7 day average is 102, divided by 49.45 ( we have just under 5 million pop.) and our figure/100,000 is 2.07.

For India (pop. 1.381 billion) the figure is 4.64/100,000 but things are only getting under way there. Watch that space.
Brazil (pop. 212.77 Million) is nearly up with the States at 17.24/100,000
Malta, with a population of 441,711 nevertheless has new cases/100,000 of 8.58, and some very ugly stats are just over a week old.

So it allows you to compare States well here, if you have access to a calculator. Anyhow, I can get it.
 
Old 08-23-2020, 03:00 AM   #7
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OK, now that you have your solution I can rant:

These numbers don't help the average end user at all. Whether they're up or down a few percent, you need to keep washing your hands & wait for the vaccine & your government to decide what's next.
These numbers are of little meaning if testing isn't at 100% of the population for all countries compared.

I get the wish to keep up with global development, but I prefer the news for that.
Or do you think your charts are more objective?

BTW, it's already been a few months now, somebody said:
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As a side effect of the Covid19 pandemic, many people are now suffering from a new disease called Prognosis.
 
Old 08-23-2020, 01:38 PM   #8
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OK, now that you have your solution I can rant:

These numbers don't help the average end user at all. etc.
Yes, agreed. I'd be fairly illogical if I thought numbers had antiseptic properties. I'm not sure I want the vaccine, if previous ones are much to go by.These numbers are a handy way of comparing countries, that's all. I don't want news in large amounts and skim a few sources to neutralize bias. We're actually doing ok here atm. I don't worry, just toe the line.
 
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JHU has a GitHub repo that some people may or may not find useful.
 
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I just compared worldometer with ourworldindata - their numbers differ a lot, so I had a look at their respective wikipedia pages:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worldometers.info
Clearly a US affair, private enterprise, no source code.
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Virginia Pitzer, a Yale University epidemiologist, said that the site is "legitimate", but flawed, inconsistent, and containing errors.
In English Wikipedia, editors reached a consensus not to cite Worldometer for COVID-19 statistics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Our_World_in_Data
European (Cambridge) affair, University project, with international collaboration & funding (also USA).
The web site is only a part of what they do.
Source code on github.

Draw your own conclusions.
 
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Thanks. Our world in Data looks good. There was a nutty figure in kid's cartoons here called 'The Count' who was obsessed with counting things. It looks like Oxford have a live one!

I'll get a handle on that. bing.com always gets the cases number for Ireland and many places low and has to correct next day (Yesterday, it was 253 cases, but bing only showed 248). A lot of people only show yesterday's data. I'll take Oxford OSS over a US company any day.
 
  


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