General This forum is for non-technical general discussion which can include both Linux and non-Linux topics. Have fun!
NOTE: All new threads will be moderated. Political threads will not be approved. |
Notices |
Welcome to LinuxQuestions.org, a friendly and active Linux Community.
You are currently viewing LQ as a guest. By joining our community you will have the ability to post topics, receive our newsletter, use the advanced search, subscribe to threads and access many other special features. Registration is quick, simple and absolutely free. Join our community today!
Note that registered members see fewer ads, and ContentLink is completely disabled once you log in.
Are you new to LinuxQuestions.org? Visit the following links:
Site Howto |
Site FAQ |
Sitemap |
Register Now
If you have any problems with the registration process or your account login, please contact us. If you need to reset your password, click here.
Having a problem logging in? Please visit this page to clear all LQ-related cookies.
Get a virtual cloud desktop with the Linux distro that you want in less than five minutes with Shells! With over 10 pre-installed distros to choose from, the worry-free installation life is here! Whether you are a digital nomad or just looking for flexibility, Shells can put your Linux machine on the device that you want to use.
Exclusive for LQ members, get up to 45% off per month. Click here for more info.
|
 |
|
05-19-2002, 02:26 PM
|
#1
|
LQ Addict
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Distribution: *NIX
Posts: 3,704
Rep:
|
lindows anyone?
Hi, I was housekeeping my bookmarks under Opera, and I came across Linux Armed, little did I know it directly linked to lindows, so I was thinking why not put it on my dad's machine (currently running Mandy 8.2), so went ahead to get lindows and I was stumped $99 for a year subscription, I am just wondering has anyone here fallen to that crap?
|
|
|
05-19-2002, 02:30 PM
|
#2
|
Moderator
Registered: Jun 2001
Location: UK
Distribution: Gentoo, RHEL, Fedora, Centos
Posts: 43,417
|
i thought everyone here knew it cost that much. it's always mentioned every time somone tries to start their own thread about this crazy "lindows" thing. 
|
|
|
05-19-2002, 04:00 PM
|
#3
|
LQ Guru
Registered: Jan 2001
Posts: 24,149
|
and that 99 bucks doesn't get you the software, only the insiders crap to news and new development on lindows. it hasn't officially been released yet.
|
|
|
05-20-2002, 08:18 AM
|
#4
|
Senior Member
Registered: Oct 2000
Location: UK - Frome
Distribution: Ubuntu
Posts: 1,081
Rep:
|
And they still haven't GPL'd their code yet...
|
|
|
05-20-2002, 08:28 AM
|
#5
|
Moderator
Registered: Feb 2002
Location: Grenoble
Distribution: Debian
Posts: 9,696
|
I'm not sure if it'll be released at all...
|
|
|
05-20-2002, 09:22 AM
|
#6
|
Senior Member
Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Plymouth, England.
Distribution: Mostly Debian based systems
Posts: 4,368
Rep:
|
But more interestingly, why would your Linux Armed bookmark take you directly to Lindows?
|
|
|
05-20-2002, 10:19 AM
|
#7
|
LQ Addict
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Distribution: *NIX
Posts: 3,704
Original Poster
Rep:
|
Quote:
But more interestingly, why would your Linux Armed bookmark take you directly to Lindows?
|
That's the question! I mean, I was out for a while and I am not following any developments in lindows arena in any way, I just heard some news over time - lindows will allow run MS apps natively, MS sues lindows, lindows gracefully cruising off the law suit, and that's all. I am happy with my RH setup, LFS is still in progress (lack of funds delays getting new machine for LFS  ), and when I clicked the bookmark I thought I'd be in a new site I've never heard of before and I ended up in lindows hands. So well, now I know, and my assumptions of lindows being a bull crap proved to be true. 
|
|
|
05-20-2002, 10:24 AM
|
#8
|
LQ Addict
Registered: Dec 2001
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Distribution: *NIX
Posts: 3,704
Original Poster
Rep:
|
And here is the prove of the bookmark being somewhat tricky
http://software.linux.com/projects/a...?topic=350,477
just click on home page or any other link, and here you go.
Last edited by neo77777; 05-20-2002 at 10:25 AM.
|
|
|
05-20-2002, 10:27 AM
|
#9
|
Member
Registered: Mar 2002
Location: Edinburgh, Scotland
Distribution: Suse 7.2, Gentoo 1.4, Solaris 9
Posts: 661
Rep:
|
I think the whole idea for Lindows is that some corporate boffin hears about how great and free linux is and there's this version that can run all his company's MS software, maybe he will try it.
|
|
|
05-20-2002, 10:31 AM
|
#10
|
Senior Member
Registered: Apr 2001
Location: Plymouth, England.
Distribution: Mostly Debian based systems
Posts: 4,368
Rep:
|
I just took a skootch over to Armed's site, and lo-and-behold it does take me straight to Lindows' site. It doesn't seem to be anything wrong with your bookmark, the site redirects straight to Lindows.
Anyone know what happened to Armed?
|
|
|
05-25-2002, 01:51 PM
|
#11
|
Member
Registered: May 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Distribution: Ubuntu, Debian, RedHat/CentOS
Posts: 624
Rep:
|
Lindows under (L)GPL?!?
Quote:
Originally posted by CragStar
And they still haven't GPL'd their code yet...
|
Do they have any intention of doing this? 
|
|
|
05-25-2002, 01:59 PM
|
#12
|
LQ Guru
Registered: Jan 2001
Posts: 24,149
|
Re: Lindows under (L)GPL?!?
Quote:
Originally posted by sewer_monkey
Do they have any intention of doing this?
|
Well any modifications to the kernel and any other GPL'd software they have to, or they can get in big trouble as its required by the GPL.
|
|
|
05-25-2002, 02:11 PM
|
#13
|
Member
Registered: May 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Distribution: Ubuntu, Debian, RedHat/CentOS
Posts: 624
Rep:
|
Baloney!
Quote:
From http://www.lindows.com/armed/
Please mention that you found out about the Insider program via this Armed Linux supporter page when you sign up.
|
Hmmmm... I wonder what will that give you? $5 off the insider's fee?
Also, note that the Armed Linux official homepage ( http://www.armed.net/) automatically redirects to http://www.lindows.com/armed/.
Kinda suspicious, don't you think? Lindows people are not idiots(their victory over M$ in court is evidence enough of that), they either saw something of value in Armed Linux (and bought it off from the original developers), or they simply hired the entire Armed Linux development crew. That's just my hunch.
Also, note that Armed Linux has disappeared off LinuxISO as well... I may be wrong, but I think they used to be listed there and had an alpha or a beta version out.
Here's another quote (the key word highlighted in red):
Quote:
From http://www.lindows.com/armed/
LindowsOS, due out later in 2002, will have the unique ability to run Linux® software titles as well as many popular Microsoft® Windows® software titles, such as Microsoft Word, Excel and PowerPoint, giving computer owners and organizations of all sizes new options on the desktop.
|
Just popular titles, eh? Like M$ Office? I already have that running (more or less) with WINE on my box. And how much will you be selling this "groundbreaking" OS for? $99? $200? Thanks, but no thanks, I'll stick with daily developmental snapshots of WINE.
Conclusion: I smell baloney. Sounds like an M$ styled attempt to rip some money off unsuspecting end-users (Windoze ME comes to mind).
Recommendations: Don't get your hopes up, be prepared for lameness.
|
|
|
05-25-2002, 02:15 PM
|
#14
|
Member
Registered: May 2002
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Distribution: Ubuntu, Debian, RedHat/CentOS
Posts: 624
Rep:
|
Re: Re: Lindows under (L)GPL?!?
Quote:
Originally posted by trickykid
Well any modifications to the kernel and any other GPL'd software they have to, or they can get in big trouble as its required by the GPL.
|
Yeah. Apple released Darwin under an Open Source license as well, but is it the same OS that is Mac OS X? Far from it.
Maybe they'll release some form of an Open Source version of their kernel, but I bet it's not going to be the same as the real Lindows...
Sorry for my endless skepticism, by the way... These posts just reflect my 2 cents with regards to this situation. 
|
|
|
05-25-2002, 06:11 PM
|
#15
|
Moderator
Registered: Feb 2002
Location: Grenoble
Distribution: Debian
Posts: 9,696
|
Remember that there is a difference between BSD and GPL. With Linux it's rather impossible something like Darwin (because of license).
|
|
|
All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:19 AM.
|
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing
Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute
content, let us know.
|
Latest Threads
LQ News
|
|