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Old 07-13-2019, 06:24 AM   #16
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We had a situation a few years back here in Ireland where flying was banned and holidays to the 'Costa Plenty' were cancelled because some volcano in Iceland blew off dust etc. came in a cloud going South but it would take a lot more than that to make a serious dent in sunlight, and the cloud never went to, or didn't stay in the upper atmosphere. I'm definitely skeptical on that, and leery generally on historical sciences generally. I can't get past the last 5 lines of the Microbe, by Hilaire Belloc: http://poetry-archive.com/b/the_microbe.html
I definitely remember that! I got stranded in Bolognia for an extra weeks holiday when Eyjafjallajökull blew. All of Europe shut down, no planes flying due to worries about what volcanic ash could do to the workings of a jet engine. Pretty good excuse for not getting to work though, "Er... Sorry boss, I'm not going to make it in today, a volcano erupted."

Also check out the 1883 Krakatoa eruption which apparently dropped temperatures in the Northern hemisphere by 1.5 degrees with ash staying in the atmosphere for months.

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Old 07-13-2019, 08:33 PM   #17
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enorbet: Not only does Life evolve, so has our planet.
That's because the Earth and other planets are alive as well. It just does not appear so since the Kingdom of Minerals moves at a much slower pace/vibrational field.
 
Old 07-13-2019, 10:30 PM   #18
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That's because the Earth and other planets are alive as well. It just does not appear so since the Kingdom of Minerals moves at a much slower pace/vibrational field.
While that is possible in some context of the definition of what it means to be alive, it gets dangerously close to the very term "alive" having no meaning at all since if everything is alive there is no need nor opportunity for any meaningful distinction.
 
Old 07-14-2019, 09:16 AM   #19
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While that is possible in some context of the definition of what it means to be alive, it gets dangerously close to the very term "alive" having no meaning at all since if everything is alive there is no need nor opportunity for any meaningful distinction.
And thus would life have no meaning, right?
 
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Old 07-15-2019, 02:12 PM   #21
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And thus would life have no meaning, right?
Huh? How do you get "here" from "there". My point was that if one adopts The Cosmic View of "All=One" no thought or meaning exists. In order to grasp any meaning at all it is essential to differentiate, starting at the most fundamental level such as "A is A" or "1 = 1" and then start building "1 + 1 = 2, 1 + 2 = 3, n". While it may be true on some level that what we think of as inanimate objects that change over Time (and doesn't that rather define Time?) are "alive" just because they evolve, that has little bearing on the focus and differentiation of this thread.

That point is that when changes occur, they "leave footprints" and we, or at least some humans, can "read" those changes left over from billions of years ago. It is by no means complete or perfect but it is all we have or can have and it improves over time. We know a decent amount about how The Cosmos works but we know a great deal about how things work down here on Planet Earth. To simply stand with arms folded defiantly across one's chest and challenge "Show me! I need to see it and touch it or it isn't real" relegates one to a life of the (supposed) Concrete having no concern or understanding of the Abstract, even those as fundamental as "A is A" or "1 + 1 = 2". If our 5 senses were a perfect judge without abstract, critical thought, there never would have been a profession of Magician.

Climate isn't Magic. It does have patterns that we can see, track, and understand.

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Old 07-15-2019, 02:15 PM   #22
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I did that at "uniformism"
 
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Apparently I can't unsubscribe. I started this, remember?
 
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Apparently I can't unsubscribe. I started this, remember?
Really? I just went back to an old thread I had started, clicked on "Thread Tools" at the top, and found "Unsubscribe from this Thread" in the menu that came up.
 
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