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Old 06-26-2003, 11:27 AM   #1
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Labels aim big guns at small file swappers


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In its most serious crackdown yet on file swapping, the Recording Industry Association of America said it will gather evidence against individuals who trade songs online and slap thousands of them with copyright-infringement lawsuits.
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Bolstered by recent court rulings that make it easier to unmask individual file swappers, the music industry trade group said it will launch a massive campaign Thursday to target individuals who offer "substantial amounts" of music through peer-to-peer networks.

"Once we begin our evidence-gathering process, any individual computer user who continues to offer music illegally to millions of others will run the very real risk of facing legal action in the form of civil lawsuits that will cost violators thousands of dollars and potentially subject them to criminal prosecution," RIAA President Cary Sherman said in a statement.

The RIAA said it will scan the public directories of peer-to-peer networks to reveal files that people are sharing and detect their Internet service providers. The association will then serve subpoenas on the ISPs to identify the individuals. It expects the first round of suits to be filed as early as August.

The RIAA has stepped up its pursuit of file swappers in recent months, but this plan marks the largest effort yet to file lawsuits against people who actually trade music. In late April, the RIAA tapped into chat functions in file-trading tools Kazaa and Grokster to send messages to users warning them that they're breaking the law.

Copyright attorney Mark Radcliffe said the decision to follow up on the legal threats isn't surprising, but that the RIAA is going to have to balance its pursuit of illegal traders with the possibility of alienating consumers.

"It's obviously a high-risk strategy, because you're suing your own customers," said Radcliffe, a partner at Gray Cary Ware & Freidenrich, which is based in Palo Alto, Calif.

The RIAA has lined up nearly three dozen artists, including Missy Elliott, Shakira, Eve and the Dixie Chicks, to support its plans to sue music fans.

"We work really hard," Eve is quoted as saying in an RIAA release. "We love our fans and we appreciate the love, but don't steal from us, support us. Go in the stores and buy the records."

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http://news.com.com/2100-1027-1020876.html?tag=nl
 
Old 06-26-2003, 11:59 AM   #2
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I'm a little worried about getting busted, does any one have any tips for beefing up my firewall?
 
Old 06-26-2003, 01:39 PM   #3
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I'm a little worried about getting busted, does any one have any tips for beefing up my firewall?
Simple: Stop sharing illegal software and music.. You won't get caught. If you read the article though, firewall won't help you if your sharing thru a peer to peer network, they will see what files you share under whatever username or IP, then serve subpoena's to the ISP to find out who your are at that given time. So as long as your sharing music over like Kazaa or whatever.. then that's their plan to catch you... Firewall won't help you in this case.
 
Old 06-26-2003, 02:11 PM   #4
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Ouch~ I don't use peer-to-peer software. People on my network do (I found one box had over 600 songs on it). I'm just trying to look out for them. Guess I'll just have to ban peer-to-peer software from our network.
 
Old 06-26-2003, 02:38 PM   #5
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Ouch~ I don't use peer-to-peer software. People on my network do (I found one box had over 600 songs on it). I'm just trying to look out for them. Guess I'll just have to ban peer-to-peer software from our network.
I would suggest that would be the smart thing to do if employees or users are sharing illegal copyrighted material on your own or company network. I'm sure you could be held responsible just as they are.
 
Old 06-26-2003, 03:34 PM   #6
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it said its scannign for files so if your on the network just downloading it doesnt sound like theyre coming after you...yet...
 
Old 06-26-2003, 07:11 PM   #7
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It doesnt mention anything about people who are downloading them. I suppose its like drugs; focus on the dealer rather than the user. It appears the whole music industry is cracking down on file sharing now. Every few days I hear about another record company who are trying to catch people. Unfortunatly (or funnily depending on what view you take and whether you use windows) politicians are getting carried away now.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertain...ic/2999780.stm
 
Old 06-26-2003, 07:21 PM   #8
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here's another link for you about that.

http://www.stoppoliceware.org/

cheers.
 
Old 06-26-2003, 09:58 PM   #9
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Distributing is one thing. RIAA is going after people who put the files up for download.

Downloading is another. It will be interesting to see when (and if) they go after downloaders.
 
Old 06-27-2003, 12:11 AM   #10
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Distributing is one thing. RIAA is going after people who put the files up for download.

Downloading is another. It will be interesting to see when (and if) they go after downloaders.
But have you realized that half of these people that go out and are downloading, using programs such as kazaa and the such are also sharing what they download??

Ahh well.. I don't use such programs and you have to have a username and password to access my personal collection of movies, mp3's and such in which I pretty much own all of them anyways... because I'm a freak and I still buy my albums cause I like to support the artist if I end up liking their songs.
 
Old 06-27-2003, 02:09 AM   #11
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But have you realized that half of these people that go out and are downloading, using programs such as kazaa and the such are also sharing what they download??
It's been years since I've run anything like kazaa. Loaded Napster just because I was curious about the technology. Never did download anything. But from what I've read (I do keep up with what the kids these days are doing it is possible to download but not make your personal collection available.

My point was that the RIAA is going after pirates who distribute. I would be very very VERY surprised if they go after someone who only downloads. The RIAA, or the feds, or whomever, cannot simply tap the net and see who is downloading... the net is legally a common carrier, like phone service. The only prosecutions possible would be for people operating servers, like kazaa. Downloading, in and of itself, cannot be legally detected and prosecuted unless there is a prior warrant enabling an Internet tap on a specific IP address or person, or unless the server is a trap, in which case entrapment issues would likely arise.

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Old 06-27-2003, 03:51 AM   #12
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Well, I have aroung 50 gigs of music, but I own every single cd. I dont share them either. But what does bother me, I like to download all the live shows of paul oakenfold. You cant buy them, there is no money to be made off of them, and why prosicute the people providing them to me? I also have no problems in admitting, I download movies, watch them, and buy them if I like it. In another post, I said I am a audio phile, I need HQ stuff. I know they see this as a issue, but its saved me hundreds from buying crappola... (whats the difference if you rent it? Artists see nothing more than an initial purchase, thats it, except my money isnt going to blockbuster)

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Old 06-27-2003, 04:38 AM   #13
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(whats the difference if you rent it? Artists see nothing more than an initial purchase, thats it, except my money isnt going to blockbuster)
Blockbuster etc. pay a *lot* more for rentable copies of media - the idea being that this somehow works it's way back to the artists...

What I don't understand is that most of the stuff people download is available to record from radio stations - one local station here played an entire radiohead album through the course of one show the other night - the same show is available via a 'listen again' service on the internet. Will the BBC be done for piracy now?
 
Old 06-27-2003, 06:09 AM   #14
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I'm still lost on the whole issue...

Back when CD's weren't as popular what was? Tapes. What did people do with tapes? They copied the good songs from each tape onto blank ones, and listened to em. They made copies for their friends on the blank ones.

The difference being tapes are poorer quality? That's lame. I'm sure I'm missing something, but to me, the "old days" of audio swapping were even more detrimental to the artist, you lacked the easy ability to look up what you are listening to in case you wanted to purchase it.



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Old 06-27-2003, 06:18 PM   #15
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Originally posted by andrew001
I found one box had over 600 songs on it
pffft. amature.....................

i have 2407 mp3's on my computer (8.16 gig)

although 80% or more of those were ripped from cd's i own


also, at the moment i only have 10 songs shared
 
  


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