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Old 09-25-2021, 06:42 PM   #1
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Is Your Car's (Non-existent) Extended Warranty Expiring


I'm sure all of you, at least all of you in the States, have gotten the spam phone calls about your car's warranty. Heck, I was getting them--sometimes two or three a day--about my 18-year-old pick-up truck, which itself was expiring after miles and miles of faithful service. (It left for the great NPR station donation in the sky a few days ago.)

Today I read a fascinating article about the workings of this scam, which I commend to your attention. I'm also curious whether such calls are a thing outside the States.
 
Old 09-25-2021, 07:27 PM   #2
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My cellphone (CA USA) has a non-local area code, so any time I see a call from same area code, I know it's spam. I hope https://www.fcc.gov/call-authentication is (successfully) implemented! (but how worldwide?)

It will be interesting to see which other countries encounter this!

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Old 09-25-2021, 07:56 PM   #3
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Is Your Car's (Non-existent) Extended Warranty Expiring

I'm not in the US, but we do get daily robocalls here. My advice is to hang up on any call that requires you to press any button (usually "1") on your phone to continue.

On Android, we can "Block and report spam" so if they call someone else from the same number, the phone advises you that it's suspected to be a spam call.
 
Old 09-25-2021, 11:14 PM   #4
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My cell phone provider (and I suspect others here in the States) has started labeling some incoming calls as "spam likely." Sometimes I answer them silently, put them on speaker, and wait to hear what happens while I go about doing whatever I was doing when the phone rang. Normally, they click off after 11 seconds.

I've tried blocking numbers, but that hasn't helped to decrease the volume of vapidity; I think a lot of the numbers are spoofed, so I'm blocking something that isn't.

On the land line, as on the cell phones, we check the caller ID. Our most common caller is "Name Unavailable." I'll usually just let Mr. or Ms. Unavailable go to voice mail, but he or she almost never leaves a message. I'm guessing the computer that makes the call is programmed to detect the outgoing voicemail message and disconnect.

Then there are the calls that purport to be from "some town, some state" where we know no one. If we answer them, they almost always turn out to be recorded lady telling us that our non-existent extended warranties are about to expire (or some other lie). I suspect those numbers are also spoofed.

The frightening thing is that enough persons must fall for this scam to make it worth the scammers' while.

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Old 09-26-2021, 05:11 AM   #5
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I generally don't answer the phone if it is a number I don't recognize but turn the volume off to see if the caller leaves a message. This rarely happens. THe most unusual thing I have seen on these calls is when I received a call from my own number. I seem to have been getting more of these calls recently and I generally will block the call. Haven't really checked yet if this is working.
 
Old 09-26-2021, 06:07 AM   #6
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It isn't only cars. A couple of months ago, I got one about the "expiring warranty" on my washing machine. That's a very old machine: I think it goes back to my mother's time. And there was never any warranty on it apart from the one year warranty that you get for free after purchase.
 
Old 09-26-2021, 09:56 AM   #7
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My extended warranty expired again? I’ll get right on it.

My daughter bought an extended warranty when they bought their sons car, a 3 years old Ford Mustang Didn’t have it 6 months, ran hot cracked a head. The extended warranty wouldn’t pay, claimed it was a pre-existing condition. At the amount they were paying compared to how many years most vehicles go before needing a major repair, would have paid for several major repairs.

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Old 09-27-2021, 05:37 AM   #8
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In this country people are warned about manufacturers' "extended warranties". They invariably offer these as soon as the initial one-year free warranty has expired. Sometimes you are encouraged to sign up for them at the time of purchase. They are not exactly scams but they are usually very bad value for money.
 
Old 09-27-2021, 05:42 AM   #9
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I have Google screen any unknown numbers, so I now regularly get a transcript of a robot talking to a robot.
 
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Two ways I know to get on the data base FOR SURE. Since I had to register with the federal government so they can email me for drug test.
This went 10 fold. Thanks to the red ape that passed this law. Second way for sure is to own a car that you get serviced. They plug it into the national data base so all your records are kept up.
Yes even a 2003 Honda and a 1997 ford F150 4x4.
some one is making money off this and it is your USA senators. Your insurance companies own them.
Being taken off the list last about 30 days.
These are not robo calls and your representatives sold you out. They took away robo calls because that was competition to the insurance companies

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Old 09-27-2021, 12:00 PM   #11
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My extended warranty expired again? Iíll get right on it.
(idem)

While I get it that it's a thing to complain to government about, basically junk mail (old school) is junk mail, be that something I get in my physical mailbox, my Inbox, or a call where I don't know who it's from. They can leave a voice-mail if it's truly a relevant topic. Meanwhile some do even when it's a junk topic. There's this thing called a cognitive filter.
 
Old 10-05-2021, 06:55 PM   #12
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I've been put under investigation multiple times by customs. Had my social security number put on "hold"(lol?) Amazon wants me to confirm that i've purchased at least 20 iphone 13s in the last month or so (don't even know if they exist or what their version number is). I've also been told that they intercepted a package from someone that was filled with drugs but I could avoid jail time for the low low price of 50 bucks. Hell of a deal.

It's amazing how this is allowed to go on. The saddest part though is that it continues because people actually fall for them.

*edit* oh and my student loans... i must have blocked out those couple years in college.

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Old 10-06-2021, 04:29 AM   #13
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It's amazing how this is allowed to go on.
So how do you think it can be stopped? Most of these calls come from abroad. Skype and other VOIP applications have made it possible to ring anyone anywhere in the world essentially for free. And I gather that if they text a mobile phone, the recipient pays for it. Once upon a time, fraudsters could only operate in their own country, and governments and courts could exercise some control. Now it's international anarchy.

The irony is that in the early days of the Internet, people praised the idea of an electronic frontier where nasty governments couldn't control what went on. We are now having to live in the world they created.

PS: A survey by the Daily Telegraph suggests that most of the people who fall for these scams, often to the point of losing all their savings, are in their middle years. Oldies like me seem to be much less gullible.

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Old 10-06-2021, 08:15 AM   #14
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Had my car (new) less than a year and start getting them, I say: you mean the car I'm leasing? They often hang up then.
 
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So how do you think it can be stopped?
I don't know. I was thinking about it more last night. I guess it can't really with spoofing of numbers and such. I've gotten some of these calls from my own phone number so that tosses that idea.
 
  


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