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Old 02-08-2017, 08:14 AM   #31
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So, you're an atheist... good for you, me to.
NOT AN atheist I am a believer in GOD the Creator of LIFE. Sorry for you.

what you expressed is a God effect, wanting oneness, finding someone like you therefore gaining a type of oneness with another therefore happiness is gained. causes and effect. .. short version.

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If a tree falls in a forest,,, LOOK OUT!
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Observer_effect_(physics)

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Old 02-08-2017, 08:45 AM   #32
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NOT AN atheist I am a believer in GOD the Creator of LIFE. Sorry for you.

what you expressed is a God effect, wanting oneness, finding someone like you therefore gaining a type of oneness with another therefore happiness is gained. causes and effect. .. short version.
You don't believe in Buddha, Zeus, Brahma, Muhammad, Tinker Bell &c &c &c so you are an atheist genius...
 
Old 02-08-2017, 08:54 AM   #33
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You don't believe in Buddha, Zeus, Brahma, Muhammad, Tinker Bell &c &c &c so you are an atheist genius...
Not believing in them that you mentioned does not make me an atheist, they are false "gods". get a clue.

how old are you?

your level of understanding on these matters doesn't look very high.

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Old 02-08-2017, 08:57 AM   #34
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They are false because you weren't born into them like billions others who do believe in them; no clue just truth!!!
 
Old 02-08-2017, 09:02 AM   #35
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They are false because you weren't born into them like billions others who do believe in them; no clue just truth!!!
do you even have a basic understanding of the human belief system and how it works?

when one is raised up to NOT believe in anything they are confused in what to really believe so they go around taking on popular beliefs, what sounds nice to them, or what suits their present wants, sometimes mistaken as needs in order to try and find the truths that one needs to guild them in how to live their life.

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Old 02-08-2017, 09:27 AM   #36
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But, like falling trees always make noise. . ..
 
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Damn, for a second I thought I clicked on the mega religion thread. But no. I see it was the where did the light go in the black hole thread.
 
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What if We Never Travel Faster Than Light?
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Old 02-08-2017, 11:54 AM   #39
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tone def people always tap there toes just to try and fit in.
 
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At The Speed of Light, What Would You See?
 
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Maybe ------All of a sudden in a wink of an eye
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Religion is the same. As long as you observe the right people you will get the right conclusion. Even if you observe the wrong people if your data is correct then you'll get the right conclusion. But I think that is confusing for you to understand.
Sorry but it is not. Science observes events and by your own words religion councils people and their opinions. Even in a court of law this is called "hearsay" and is inadmissable.



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NO it is not. You obviously have little to no understanding of God the Father of creation and His laws. But are like the rest that take a truth then add to it therefore turning it into a misleading belief of a truth. To put it bluntly and truthfully, turning a truth into a lie.

Science, or the study of how do things work is just trying to figure out not only how God does things, but it too shows what God already had to work with when he created the Heavens and the Earth. The planets where already here. He just put order to them.
You are correct in that indeed I do have no understanding of a Supreme Being since by definition as Creator of the Universe, afaik that means OUTSIDE the Universe whether completely or only mostly and that means I can never gather any evidence to come to any conclusion. However you are mistaken that Science "is trying to figure out how God does things" because unlike you who assume the conclusion in the premise, since God can't be proven he/she/it does not enter into the equation.

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If one believes in the right God mind you. For their are deceivers within the world to mislead others into believing their lie.


I do not discount the Creator nor do I scoff at all of Science. Closed minded people are of what?
By "right God" you mean the one you believe in since apparently you have the inside track and are privy to evidence from outside our Universe. Arrogant much? Delusional maybe?

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Even with the Big Bang Theory, they cannot find that one piece of information they need to explain how life actually got started, and "strangely" enough they call it the God Particle
Here you are mixing up two different fields of study. While they overlap considerably Big Bang preceded the Higgs Boson. From what Science can gather the organic building blocks for even what we consider "life" are ubiquitous. They are literally everywhere and in almost everything. It seems that life is something chemistry does when given the components and sufficient time. It is highly likely that continued study of Mars will produce some solid evidence making this more than merely the safest bet.

Incidentally the Higgs is referred to as The God Particle by the press not by Mr. Higgs because it is the key particle that causes matter to have mass. Without it this Universe would possibly be only energy and E=MC^2 would never have come into being nor recognized since we would not be here.

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Dead end - key words
Indeed! Likely the end result of this conversation since as one who is religious you believe in the Final Word of Your Version. Science, otoh, expects all data to continue to evolve and be refined.
 
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Religion is the same. As long as you observe the right people you will get the right conclusion. Even if you observe the wrong people if your data is correct then you'll get the right conclusion. But I think that is confusing for you to understand.
Sorry but it is not. Science observes events and by your own words religion councils people and their opinions. Even in a court of law this is called "hearsay" and is inadmissible.

Religion is not called hearsay in a court of law it is called. Freedom of religion. which in America is the freedom to worship that tree outside of your house if you want to. If that is what your religion says to do.

But being that this USA is made up of a bunch of control freaks that love making laws that tell other what they can and cannot do of their own freewill. Even this freedom of Religion thing in the USA has had sanctions put on it.


I am talking in the context of what science does. not how one uses it to come up with an understanding of how something works.

For me to tell a judge that this is how God makes the leaves in a tree turn colors at a given time in a season, then explain the process by which it does will not be called hearsay. That falls under freedom of religion.

you're thinking apples when I am thinking oranges in that context.
 
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I forgot to put off topic... BW-userx: If you're religious why'd you evolve? Pray to the moon and sun as our ancestors did!
 
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I forgot to put off topic... BW-userx: If you're religious why'd you evolve? Pray to the moon and sun as our ancestors did!
what on me has evolved? I may have grown larger then I was when I was born, but what on me has evolved?
 
  


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