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Old 07-23-2012, 12:03 PM   #1
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Arrow Is there good book or web site that explains CPU and intel and AMD marketing


I made 3 threads in past here.


All on the CPU and understanding intel and AMD marketing and what CPU is faster.

I think book or web site for more reading on understanding intel and AMD marketing and CPU will help .

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...-a-4175417042/
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...8-core-943768/
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...to-end-943766/


Note I know it is hard to ask on none benchmark site to ask what CPU is faster has most do not do benchmarks here and benchmark site message board would be better place to ask .But seems this is what got be confused and moore's law.

I seem to have thought every 4 years CPU's would be 2 or 3 times faster with all technology out there. I was so wrong.

I thouht if I got new computer every 4 or 5 years my computer would be 2 or 3 times faster . I was wrong.
 
Old 07-23-2012, 12:29 PM   #2
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for my children a ten (or twelve?) years old pc is good enough, because they use it for facebook mainly (and watch some films online). The speed of their PCs are highly determined by the network, by my ISP, so actually (almost) any CPU and any PC will be really good enough.
For me, in my job the first thing I do is a remote login and therefore my pc should only serve as a simple gui to display a few desktops. my jobs will be completed even if my pc or network were down. For me, at home, if I want to play a new game or want to edit some pictures/videos I will need a really fast gpu and cpu.

About the marketing: everybody everywhere explain you why you should by his product, because it is better, faster, more colorful or whatever, but in real life it always depend on your actual needs. The factory never interested in it, the factory wants to produce money, so IBM/AMD/... will try to prove and demonstrate, and you only need to decide: do you really need that product?
 
Old 07-23-2012, 03:37 PM   #3
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All on the CPU and understanding intel and AMD marketing and what CPU is faster.
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It is possible that you cannot understand in absolute detail the marketing from either of the big two consumer microprocessor manufacturers. This is little to do with whether one microprocessor is faster than another on some particular task.

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I think book or web site for more reading on understanding intel and AMD marketing and CPU will help .
A book would be out of date very rapidly, and so would have limited use. There are websites around. Have you looked for any, what did you find and did it help you any?

If not, why not?

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Note I know it is hard to ask on none benchmark site to ask what CPU is faster has most do not do benchmarks here and benchmark site message board would be better place to ask .
Well, it is easy to ask, but you'll get contradictory answers and you may not understand all of the aspects involved, even when you do get non-contradictory answers. And, even then, the answers that you get, may not help you, because the answers that you can get may not really be answers to questions that you really wanted to ask.

For example, anything that says 'processor 1234 is twice as fast as processor 9768', will be an oversimplification, unless the two processors are very closely related, and in general, for the interesting cases, they won't be or the task on which the performance is measured is very closely defined, which won't usually be the case if you want a genral indication.

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I seem to have thought every 4 years CPU's would be 2 or 3 times faster with all technology out there. I was so wrong.

I thouht if I got new computer every 4 or 5 years my computer would be 2 or 3 times faster . I was wrong.
The point has already been made that if you are downloading something, a faster CPU probably just won't help, because the CPU isn't the bottleneck. If your problem is that you need to get something off (or onto) the hard disk quickly, a faster CPU won't help, and real hard disks aren't getting that much faster, just at the moment. And printing doesn't get a lot faster, just because the CPU is faster.

So, there is a lot more than CPU involved in 'speed', so just speeding up the CPU, if that is an option, is likely to be disappointing if the other elements do not also increase in speed.

And the 'get a new computer every four or five years' element is difficult because of software; Are you going to run the same software versions that you ran that time ago (which will have exposed vulns) or are you going to run more modern, more bloaty, software and absorb a lot of the speed advances that have occurred in the hardware with software that needs more hardware speed not to go slower? If you do the latter, it will make measurement difficult (and by 'difficult', there will situations in which 'impossible' is an accurate description), and if you do the former, the bad guys will get you.

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But seems this is what got be confused and moore's law.
I'm not sure what you are saying about Moore's law. Last time out, it seems that you were using some mis-statement of Moore's law, but when it comes to the practical matter of buying the best microprocessor, you can do that without making any reference whatever to Moore's law.
 
  


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