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Old 06-30-2021, 08:42 AM   #16
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Since I was so gently reminded to never ask a question anywhere on the internet without ddg'ing it first, I did just that. Some general searches, some specific to my provider, and all I came up with is this:

I don't think it's just magically possible to email a phone number. Or that every phone number somehow magically has an email address associated with it.
No, this needs to be installed & maintained by the providers, and since it effectively allows sending SMS for free, I'm sure they would advertise if it was (still) available.
Nothing is "free" in this equation. They get paid for your receiving a SMS text if you are the cell customer. And they do advertise it, but not as a major "feature". I have always found it in the help/support pages (once in the FAQ listing). Not only do corporate clients often use that feature, but retailers like The UPS Store, Inc. outlets do as well. I suspect the business trade encourages them to support the feature.
 
Old 06-30-2021, 08:58 AM   #17
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Not only do corporate clients often use that feature, but retailers like The UPS Store, Inc. outlets do as well. I suspect the business trade encourages them to support the feature.
In general, organizations that send text messages / reminders programmatically would not use an e-mail mechanism. They'll use someone like Twilio or Clickatell to do that kind of delivery where all you need is the mobile number and don't need to know the carrier.

Having done programmatical receipt and delivery of SMS messages for many years I've had exposure to a fair few different methods of delivery, everything from a mobile phone on an RS-232 cable to these API providers.
 
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In general, organizations that send text messages / reminders programmatically would not use an e-mail mechanism. They'll use someone like Twilio or Clickatell to do that kind of delivery where all you need is the mobile number and don't need to know the carrier.

Having done programmatical receipt and delivery of SMS messages for many years I've had exposure to a fair few different methods of delivery, everything from a mobile phone on an RS-232 cable to these API providers.
The companies I worked for did not want to install anything new, and used only what was available in the system pending approvals. Email did not require approvals. YMMV
 
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They get paid for your receiving a SMS text if you are the cell customer.
Only if your provider is in one of the four countries in the world that uses RPP (Receiving Party Pays).

 
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They get paid for your receiving a SMS text if you are the cell customer.
as boughtonp pointed out, that seems unlikely to me.

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And they do advertise it, but not as a major "feature". I have always found it in the help/support pages (once in the FAQ listing).
I was speaking about my provider specifically, but have not exhausted all my search fu on it yet.
Though I did find out that I apparently have an (option for an) email adress for my broadband contract which I have never used so far... cool.
I might send them a message and simply ask about that email => sms feature.
 
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Though I did find out that I apparently have an (option for an) email adress for my broadband contract which I have never used so far... cool.
That's pretty standard for an ISP to provide at least one mailbox per account. Just be prepared to lose it if you change broadband providers.
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I might send them a message and simply ask about that email => sms feature.
Why? You seem to be having a lot of fun doing the research!
 
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Why? You seem to be having a lot of fun doing the research!
Not so much fun.
a) their sites are totally bogged down by fancy javascript UI and
b) it is not in english, and my search fu is best in english

But it would be an intersting feature, I'd like to get to the bottom of this.
 
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To be clear, the email to SMS gateways are usually provided by the CELL providers, not the ISP. In other words, SPRINT has a sprint email server that sends SMS to SPRINT phones. That works, I have used it. If the phone number is moved over to AT&T, the SPRINT gateway will no longer work, but there is an AT&T gateway that will start working to deliver SMS to that phone.

I have NO idea how the rest of the world works this, but that is the pattern in the USA.
 
  


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