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View Poll Results: Do you think the desktop PC is going to become a thing of the past?
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Old 11-14-2019, 07:36 AM   #1
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Thumbs down Is the "cloud" going to kill the PC?


I've been reading some articles about the "cloud" killing off the PC as more and more software moves to "the cloud". It seems the days of the desktop PC might well be numbered.

Some of the main issues seem to be:

* PC sales seem to be going down due to things like tablets, smartphones.
* Most people have a smartphone, and therefore aren't sitting at a desktop using it.
* You no longer need a PC to get online, particularly with the advent of wifi and smartphones, etc.
* People are used to using technology, but fewer and fewer people really care how it works at a deeper level.

Personally I think it will be a VERY sad day to see people's control over their own system being taken away, and therefore forced on to some "cloud" platform. And obviously a VERY sad day to see the desktop PC disappear in favor of "the cloud".

https://www.computerworld.com/articl...e-desktop.html
https://www.computerworld.com/articl...ming-back.html

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Old 11-14-2019, 07:48 AM   #2
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I don't think it will kill off the PC, in the same way that I don't think touchscreens will ever replace buttoned keyboards - the tactile experience of using a keyboard is just infinitely more comfortable and more reliable than using a touchscreen [and one can't touchtype on a touchscreen].

I think PC usage will decrease, and we will see OSs like Windows 10 forcing cloud sign-ins in order to use the operating system. However, clouds do have legitimate uses, especially since many of us use multiple devices and having different-staged documents on different devices can become confusing. I personally use MEGA for my cloud needs since it's encrypted end-to-end.

One also has to remember that 'prediction' articles in magazines often get things wrong and such articles mostly exist to generate interest in the publication rather than to inform [e.g. I have a small collection of Kerrang! magazines from the 1980s and it's retrospectively quite amusing to see the amount of predictions that they got wrong].

But no, I don't think it will kill off the PC entirely, though maybe in the mainstream it will - and those with local devices and local sign-ins will be looked on as the fringe. A worst-case scenario would be a completely cloud-based computer-system whereby even the OS is online and local machines get so unpopular that manufacturers stop making the hardware, but I can't see that happening because of the enthusiast market.

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Old 11-14-2019, 07:54 AM   #3
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Digital disruption has been around for as long as I've been in the business. That would be the mid 70's.
Similar scary stories keep popping up. Some even came to pass.

Nothing new - although the timeframes are drastically shorter these days.
 
Old 11-14-2019, 07:55 AM   #4
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Everything since cable TV has been going to kill off the PC according to "someone". I think "someone" does not understand why the PC became popular in the first place or what they are really for. That said, PC sales have been dropping and the market is clearly near saturation. I expect to see PC sales flatline, but always be a viable market as long as people have money and computing and gaming needs not well met by "the cloud".
 
Old 11-14-2019, 08:21 AM   #5
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not even remotely. those articles are pure fiction for now. the pc isn't going anywhere for at least the next few decades. have to laugh every time someone post about one of those stories.
 
Old 11-14-2019, 08:50 AM   #6
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pc gamers are huge audience for pc makers. i dont see that changing anytime soon.
 
Old 11-14-2019, 09:02 AM   #7
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It certainly won't kill pc for me. I don't use cloud except to send files I can't email. My most used online app is LQ
 
Old 11-14-2019, 09:29 AM   #8
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The difference is laptops versus desktops. I feel there are a ton of people who use laptops far more than a fixed desktop.
 
Old 11-14-2019, 09:38 AM   #9
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The difference is laptops versus desktops. I feel there are a ton of people who use laptops far more than a fixed desktop.
Yeah, that's another thing I was thinking - not easy to lug a desktop machine around with you. But much easier to lug a laptop around. The other thing is that smartphones I've seen (and tablets for the most part too) don't generally come with USB ports, but laptops do.

I'll add a poll for those interested too - a thread is always better with a poll
 
Old 11-14-2019, 09:51 AM   #10
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In 2013 it was asked: where would your favorite Linux distribution be in five years, when only a handful of nostalgic freaks use [a] PC or laptop?

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...3/#post4913229

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Old 11-14-2019, 09:52 AM   #11
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In 2013 it was asked: where would your favorite Linux distribution be in 2018, when only a handful of nostalgic freaks use PC or laptop?

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...3/#post4913229
That's absolutely hilarious. I love the arrogance of the 'placeholder' line too.

EDIT: It gets even better, he left the forum because of it.

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Old 11-14-2019, 10:22 AM   #12
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I don't have, or want, a mobile phone.
I don't like using tablets, (I gave mine away).
I used to use a desktop, (sometimes still do), but laptops are 'King' as far as I'm concerned.
Never used the cloud, I like to be in control of my data.
So, I guess, if laptops disappear, so will I.......
 
Old 11-14-2019, 11:26 AM   #13
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The desktop PC is not declining or becoming obsolete... that is utter bollocks, it's the marketing people for the new wave of kewl touch screen toys who quite obviously want to spread this FUD...

Cast your mind back to the 90's when there were people using mostly desktops and laptops - most of these were not even on the net until the latter part of that decade. Back then, there were nowhere near as many people online anyway - the "internet revolution" really took off and started to snowball in the early 00's.

Tablets and phones have not stolen the desktop market, they have simply brought more people onto the web and made the desktop/laptop market look smaller by comparison. Gamers are still there, people using productivity software are still there and GNU/Linux users, mainly using desktops have grown enormously since the 90's.

Slack does not need to support tablets or mobile devices, that's not what Slack is about. It's up to individuals or derivative distros to support that kind of thing.

In view of this, this thread just seems like an ill founded attention seeking rant.
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post5027726

The PC market boom was all about the WWW. People had no choice but to connect up using e.g. an x86 PC running Windows 98 using a dial up modem.

You had a spike, then a steady fall as other devices became available and use of the web increased. The market for desktops, such as games and corporate workstations, etc which existed then, still exists today. If you compared it pre "internet revolution" with today, it will be much larger than then, as there are now far more computers used in business than ever before, population growth, plus lower prices, etc.

So yes these clickbait articles are driven by marketing, go with the flow according to market trends, etc.

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Old 11-14-2019, 12:18 PM   #14
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Not in my lifetime! Afterwards, who cares?
 
Old 11-14-2019, 12:20 PM   #15
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A lot of home users, other than hard-core gamers, have switched to smart phones: look at the sales figures. But the computer, be it lap-top or desk-top, will still remain in the office, and for professionals and scholars. You're not going to do word-processing, let alone CAD, on a phone! There will also be people who are not going to risk entrusting data to the cloud. Predictions are always rash, ranging from "ordinary people will never need a computer" to "the mainframe is obsolete".
 
  


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