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Old 10-31-2020, 05:10 AM   #16
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^ Very interesting points. It's good of you to share this information, but are you sure that's what OP was asking? Aren't you just using this thread as a vehicle to drive a related topic?
 
Old 10-31-2020, 06:12 AM   #17
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Yes, that's what the OP was asking. From post #1:

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Strong crypto used to be restricted export-wise outside of US.

Does this apply to US? Can you build a Linux machine with a SSH server running on it and ship it overseas and connect to it via SSH from US?
The panel discussion covers much of the current situation in the US in regards to cryptography, how things got that way, and incoming political threats.

If we (that includes you) ignore the pending changes, the Net will not be able to function.
 
Old 10-31-2020, 07:26 AM   #18
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Yes, that's what the OP was asking. From post #1:
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Strong crypto used to be restricted export-wise outside of US.
Does this apply to US? Can you build a Linux machine with a SSH server running on it and ship it overseas and connect to it via SSH from US?
The panel discussion covers much of the current situation in the US in regards to cryptography, how things got that way, and incoming political threats.

If we (that includes you) ignore the pending changes, the Net will not be able to function.
What changes?
Sorry, I'm not watching that youtube video, and the other link does not even provide any hint as to that discussion's immediate relevance.
Esp. not to the last sentence of your previous post, how the "current situation in the US in regards to cryptography" will have that absolute global effect.
If you like to exapnd on that, I'm listening.
 
Old 10-31-2020, 07:40 AM   #19
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The gist is that lobbyists on both sides of the Atlantic are clamoring for (among other things) mandated backdoors in encryption and encryption tools, a software repeat of the Clipper Chip fiasco. Some even ask for an outright ban, not understanding what they are calling for or the repercussions.

However, this time their attack has more steam and the public is more even more unaware and apathetic than back in round 1. There are, in absolute numbers, fewer skilled and knowledgable ICT people than 25 years ago. Yeah, everyone has a smartphone and flicks at it incessantly, that does not count. Yeah, everyone resells M$ products and services, that does not count either.

Upwind from you, similar moves are going on. Here is a PDF about the current situation. Sorry I can't find XHTML just video and PDF but you can run pstotext over the PDF script and still get the main points:

https://ripe81.ripe.net/archives/video/441/

All of these areas are relevant to each other because successful attacks on encryption in one trade zone are quickly implented in others in the name of "harmonization", aka a race to the bottom.

Edit: I think I am slow in understanding your question. I am answering if it is allowed to export encryption technolgies from the US. Perhaps you are asking if other countries allow import of it. I have not answered much of that second question since the OP seems to be asking about export.

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Old 10-31-2020, 08:32 AM   #20
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Thanks for the additional link.
I watched the video.
The situation described in Russia seems backed by actual facts & research, but everything beyond that is opinion of the creator, not backed by anything.
I'm not saying it's a wrong opinion, but that's all it is at this point.
As far as I am concerned, as far as the encrypted internet as a whole is concerned, I see the warning signs, but I also see positive development.

Fact is, this has very little to do with the original question and SSH or Linux isn't mentioned at all.

Generally speaking, bold statements like "Many countries (...) do not allow encrypted communication" need to be backed by fact-based articles.
Statements like "lobbyists (...) are clamoring for mandated backdoors" might be correct, but of little value by itself because that's what lobbyists do.

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I am in Canada, spent three months in South Korea from January to March this year

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