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Old 07-06-2017, 07:05 PM   #1
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Is Okular the standard reader for Linux OS?


It is rather Okular I want to speak about. A fact surprises me, and it is the lack of standardization I observe as regards Xfce4, specifically its file manager. When you enter the file manager, first time you press 'down arrow' key, you get the focus in the 2nd entry or the displayed directory. Now, when I use Okular under Xfce4, and press File>Open, first entry displayed after striking that key is the directory FIRST entry. It is really unconfortable, for you get used to one mode and then you have to "unget" used. Could the boys there be more careful? I think it's an honest question and an indirect critic to Linux applications in general.
 
Old 07-06-2017, 07:51 PM   #2
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I use evince myself. I suppose certain distros and/or desktop environments may come bundled with a particular document reader, but linux itself gives you the flexibility to choose another if you prefer. I use Arch and I remember going through a few before settling on evince.

I suggest you check what software packages your distro provides and experiment with alternatives until you find something you like.

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Old 07-06-2017, 08:32 PM   #3
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Okular is part of the KDE desktop environment.
It does a good job and I use it in Xfce as Xfce can run the KDE applications.

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Old 07-06-2017, 08:37 PM   #4
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Okular is the PDF reader from the KDE project and is generally included if you select a KDE desktop environment. It is also my favorite Linux PDF reader because it is the one which has worked best and proven most versatile for me. You can find it in most distros' repos regardless of your DE.

Evince is the Gnome PDF reader and is generally included if you select the Gnome Desktop Environment. It is generally available in most distros' repos, regardless of your DE.

There are a number of other Linux PDF readers.
 
Old 07-06-2017, 08:44 PM   #5
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Mupdf is a very good lightweight PDF reader aswell, just saying...
 
Old 07-06-2017, 09:34 PM   #6
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Now that I'm talking about Okular, I have some questions/remarks to do. Couldn't a PDF/DJVU/etc reader have something like marks in vim. I certainly would be very useful. Next, if you want to 'find' by words, it cannot do it. Only case sensitive, from current page and the latter almost never works well. And the most fastidious thing of all: as you begin typing in the search bar, it instantly begins to search. I cannot imagine anything more annoying.

If this is the best that can be got, I don't want even want to imagine what the worst can be~
 
Old 07-07-2017, 12:46 PM   #7
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as you begin typing in the search bar, it instantly begins to search. I cannot imagine anything more annoying.
Evince does the same thing; for that matter, so do both my web browsers. The bit I find annoying is when it starts repeating the last search before I've had a chance to type in the new one
 
Old 07-07-2017, 01:40 PM   #8
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Well, in Google you have the option to disable "instant search". I always have it on.
 
Old 07-17-2017, 03:51 PM   #9
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Catch as catch can. I've yet to find a Linux PDF reader that'll do exactly what I want.....so it's either Adobe's final Linux version of their PDF Reader (9.5.5) from 2013, or Foxit Software's PDF reader for Whinedoze, running under WINE (something it does rather well, I find.)

The sparse, feature-poor Linux version is a joke. Aside from that, we have Evince as the standard reader in Puppy. Not my favourite, by a long chalk, but it'll do in a pinch.

Remember, Adobe's 4-year old final Linux version is still the only one to provide a Mozilla plug-in capable of opening gov't documents in the browser.


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Old 07-19-2017, 09:29 AM   #10
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Oh, I had that version. But now it's quite innacssesible to me. Where could I get it? In Adobe's page it does not seem to appear.

I'm only looking for a very simple function. That the reader be able to go to the bottom of the page. But it seems no reader can do that. Another thing is this: to be able to place marks in the text, so you can go somewhere else in the text and then return without having to remember the page number. Is it possible nobody thought about that? When you are reading a book, specially a text book, you do that with your fingers, keeping the alternative place open with them while you read another pages. I'll bet not even those electronic portable devices for reading ebooks, like the kindle type have that facility.

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Old 07-20-2017, 01:58 PM   #11
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It is rather Okular I want to speak about. A fact surprises me, and it is the lack of standardization I observe as regards Xfce4, specifically its file manager. When you enter the file manager, first time you press 'down arrow' key, you get the focus in the 2nd entry or the displayed directory. Now, when I use Okular under Xfce4, and press File>Open, first entry displayed after striking that key is the directory FIRST entry. It is really unconfortable, for you get used to one mode and then you have to "unget" used. Could the boys there be more careful? I think it's an honest question and an indirect critic to Linux applications in general.

Okular is today the best of the best for PDFs on Linux. I have upgraded my system from DWM to now KDE. I use Okular. It is pain to install, kinda full of bugs and crashes, but it allows so so much more than XPDF or Mupdf. Okular is good, maybe it can be considered as the default / standard one for Linux.

Actually, you havn't much other *good* other choices.
 
Old 07-20-2017, 02:39 PM   #12
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.....Remember, Adobe's 4-year old final Linux version is still the only one to provide a Mozilla plug-in capable of opening gov't documents in the browser....
Hmmmm....... In Firefox, and other browsers, you can set up which .pdf reader you want to use. In Firefox the setting can be found under "applications," i.e., "Preferences > Applications," click on .pdf and take it from there.
I just went to the irs.gov site and clicked on a 1040 form and it opened in Okular. To my surprise, as I haven't tried this recently, Okular now has the option to fill in the form. I also tried it by changing the settngs, as desribed above, to acroread, and the same form appeared just as it did in Okular with the same abiltiy to fill in the blanks.

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Old 07-21-2017, 12:11 AM   #13
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Hmmmm....... In Firefox, and other browsers, you can set up which .pdf reader you want to use. In Firefox the setting can be found under "applications," i.e., "Preferences > Applications," click on .pdf and take it from there.
I just went to the irs.gov site and clicked on a 1040 form and it opened in Okular. To my surprise, as I haven't tried this recently, Okular now has the option to fill in the form. I also tried it by changing the settngs, as desribed above, to acroread, and the same form appeared just as it did in Okular with the same abiltiy to fill in the blanks.
Filling forms for gov is the must! It is so important that there are many more prg that does what actually Acrobat could do well.

Usually I need to fill docs from docs. It is useful and it saves time.

But, KDE, so much for this feature?
 
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Filling forms for gov is the must! It is so important that there are many more prg that does what actually Acrobat could do well.

Usually I need to fill docs from docs. It is useful and it saves time.

But, KDE, so much for this feature?

"fill docs from docs"??????
Can you elaborate?
 
Old 07-21-2017, 11:02 AM   #15
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"fill docs from docs"??????
Can you elaborate?
"filling in some documents, which are issued from gov"

example: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/1888623?tstart=0
 
  


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