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Old 04-13-2004, 10:00 PM   #16
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Why in the world would you even want to make linux anything like windows? Linux is Unix. Windows is not in any way a system capable of replacing Unix. If you want windows, then just use it, it's already available and probably came on your computer. It would be like reinventing the wheel, and having the same old bent rim.

Linux is developed by computer users who have their own interests in mind, instead of making money. I'm sure when the whole project started to develope there were solid reasons for the OS to be base on Unix. It is the best. In my opinion noone would even consider using something like windows as a starting point for something like Linux. If they did it would be called something like lindows I guess. Oh wait someone did. Oh well that proves my point.

Windows has better support of most software because the software was written for windows. Some of it's good, most of it is crap that is only written to make money. Hardware is built and drivers are developed for windows. It's the manufacturer that has decided not to suport Linux or even to release the information needed to build drivers. This is why it takes time for someone to build a driver that works.

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Old 04-13-2004, 10:23 PM   #17
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That last post should be the last really because I couldn't have said it better!
 
Old 08-29-2006, 11:42 PM   #18
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windows sucks...

well to be 100 % honest i dislike windows.

why should we make linux like windows?, there are similar distros to windows out there, but windows is just so.... windows.

windows cant really do anything that linux cant, its not linux's responsibility to make itself all windows orientated just so windows users can move over.

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Old 08-30-2006, 04:05 AM   #19
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Originally Posted by aweir14150
Why can't a distribution of Linux be made to operate under the same princibles as Windows. Why does Linux HAVE to be so different?

Many people would like to see an operating system that resembles Windows and this would drive down the cost. Is Microsoft paying the developers of Linux to make it very UNLIKE Windows, in order for Microsoft to continue to dominate the software market?

Why is it so hard to develop a better operating system than Windows, while still operating along the same lines: Ease of use and compatable with existing software.

Is it against the law to make another operating system that can read .exe files like Windows does?

There just so many things wrong with this.. its hard to know where to start. To phrase this gently, alot of the questions are rhetorical.

Alot them are equivalent to asking "why can't boys be girls?" or vice versa.

Or downright deamining.

You would'nt ask a musician "well why don't you play more like musician x?" and certainly don't tell or imply the programmers of the faster growing open source project in the world that their programs suck because it is'nt windows.

compatibility?


You've cause and effect completely mixed around

software is compatible with the OS, NOT the other way around.

Windows is successful because of its market dominating strategies and well designed gui(subjective ofcourse) which people oooh'd and ahhhh'd over at the time. Right place. Right time. Right hardware.
It did'nt just fall out of the sky and was successful because it was compatible with existing software. It was successful because it run on exceptionally cheap hardware but still be functional. It was the first to achieve this goal and now its standard.

Ease of use? You want Microsoft's ease of use plan? Here it is.

Copy as much as legally possible from the mac gui.

Make things square. Users like bold angle.

Get as much hardware vendor support as possible.

Let other companies handle innovation. Buy them out if useful.

Create standards from the companies you bought that will be conviently easy to use on your system but be nearly impossible on others.

Discourage portability in programs. Encourage binary protocols and propietary conventions.

Wizards, dialogue boxes, clippy.

Advertise. Advertise. Advertise.

Change colors in the widgets every 3-5 years. Innovation. W00T!

Presto.
 
Old 08-30-2006, 04:33 AM   #20
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YOU CANT DO THAT.

Do you know how bloody hard it is to do something like that?? It isnt the difficulty at making a disto, its the difficulty of MAKING A REPLICA of windows which is CLOSED source. What you want in windows, but free, and thats NOT going to happen. There is SO much more to making an OS than just plunking in compatability for .exe files. Its not like the Linux creators were like "Yeah, lets not include .exe compatability just to irritate users", no they COULDN'T because Linux is not Windows and cant be used as such.

And then there is the fact that .exe files are designed for windows not linux, Linux has a different structure completly.

Lindows is NOT compatable with .exe files (I am pretty damn sure), it is simply a user friendly, bad disto. Besides this, what do you need .exe files for? There are so many GPL things with are used with .tar.gz's and have virtually every thing from windows for linux.

If someone were to go and make a disto which took .exe files, what would that make it? Windows! Linux is NOT windows and can and never will be windows. If you don't like it, don't use it. Im quite sick of hearing people bitch about it not being the same, OF COURSE ITS NOT, it was not intended to be.

To sum it up, there is never going to be a linux version which is the same as windows, ever. This is an almost impossible task to do, so don't bitch about it, if you don't like linux don't use it. Simple as that.
Some people may disagree with you.
reactos is windows .exe compatible.
And lindows CAN run many .exe BTW.
The original poster wants reactos and doesn't know what linux is.
 
Old 08-30-2006, 07:36 AM   #21
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Brainnnnnsssssss. This thread has been revived by some sort of nerd necromancy - before today, the last entry was around 2 years ago.

Carry on.
 
Old 08-30-2006, 10:27 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by urzumph
Perhaps you are looking for this?
www.reactos.com
Do they not get sued for that?
 
Old 08-31-2006, 10:52 AM   #23
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it depends on how many people would be happy to see them get sued ...


//btw ... seems that they got a live cd of their work ... cool ...


.

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Old 08-31-2006, 03:55 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by alred
it depends on how many people would be happy to see them get sued ...


//btw ... seems that they got a live cd of their work ... cool ...


.
I ment by Microsoft, as it basically is a blatent ripoff of Windows.
 
Old 08-31-2006, 05:22 PM   #25
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There is, it's called a Mac, and you still have to pay $$$ for it.

Ok, maybe it's not linux but BSD, but close enough.
 
Old 08-31-2006, 05:39 PM   #26
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You know, it's probably a great big myth to suppose that most of the serious proponents of Linux are somehow "counter-culture" .. or even that this supposedly evil notion of "making money" is a pariah to these folks.

There is actually an enormous purely-commercial installed base of Linux. Supercomputers of all sizes, web servers by the thousands, transaction processing, you name it! There's an excellent chance that your cell-phone is running some version of it. Sure, it's easily the most adaptable and approachable system out there, precisely because of its open-source nature. That's what enables all of that commercial activity to take place.

"Open source" is also why Apple has been able to crank out a new OS/X every year while we are "still waiting" for LongH.. uh, Vista. It's also how they were able to move their system to an entirely new hardware architecture ... on time, and on budget ... with nary a hiccup. (Still .. waiting .. for .. vista .. .. ..)

So maybe it's time to set-aside this "Us versus the World" posturing. This is a world of commerce, and Linux happens to now be a very fundamental part of it.

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Old 08-31-2006, 11:49 PM   #27
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I don't even know why I keep reading these threads. It's so pointless.
If you want a faster, more secure version of windows, learn how to use windows. It's as hard as learning linux, with the only difference that you can do without knowing windows - with the downside that it will get slower and more insecure until you have to reinstall.
 
  


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