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Old 02-20-2024, 09:14 AM   #46
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You can't actually get third-degree burns from "190F water." That degree of injury is where your skin is literally destroyed.

Every morning, I heat water in a teakettle while grinding coffee beans by hand(!) in my cast-iron grinder. The "sweet spot," which I can actually hear, is "200F." Just below boiling. I then pour the hot water through my Chemex and enjoy. Well, every now and then I have poured some coffee on myself. (Ouch!) But I never called for a lawyer.
And how often does it sit on your skin through wet clothes in a car? And this woman was 79 years old at the time...skin is far different at that age.
 
Old 02-20-2024, 09:24 AM   #47
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I worked in tech support for years (still do partially) and people often do very silly things, not through lack of intellect, but because people in general seem to be increasingly less practical these days or their skills are in other areas. Vendors of products only care about getting sued, so they take precautionary measures to insulate themselves to some degree against these "idiots".

A few years ago, we had someone who was getting static shocks from some plastic materials and then refused to use any of the equipment we provided as they believed it was giving them shocks. In reality they were earthing themselves on the equipment, but wouldn't accept this and we had to send someone out as a reassurance.

Then there are those scenarios where you send someone on a routine visit to look at the PC and then get a call an hour or so later to the effect that "our microwave/toaster/kettle hasn't worked since your guy was here".

Same goes for "remote control" tools such as team viewer "your guy was on my machine fixing your software, now I can't get onto my emails".

In short it's all about blame and claim.
 
Old 02-20-2024, 05:35 PM   #48
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Then there are those scenarios where you send someone on a routine visit to look at the PC and then get a call an hour or so later to the effect that "our microwave/toaster/kettle hasn't worked since your guy was here".

Same goes for "remote control" tools such as team viewer "your guy was on my machine fixing your software, now I can't get onto my emails".
LMAO

"He broke Google. He must've because it's not working any more. Why did he mess with it?"
 
Old 02-20-2024, 07:26 PM   #49
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My car infotainment center pops up a warning about taking your eyes off road after I'm moving. Seems to me looking at that message and having to press OK while driving is unsafe. What should I do? Pull over and read the same old message and then press OK or try to drive and look at road and button on screen?

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Old 02-20-2024, 07:54 PM   #50
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My dad recently bought such a car, and I very quickly learned how to turn these “fee-churs” off.

I can see that this car’s version of “cruise control” is ready to steer(!) the car for me. Until it suddenly declares that it can’t. Such as, for example, “when it starts to rain.”

It is actually a historic fact that one of the earliest proponents of “autopilot” lost his life(!!) to a “white truck” parked next to a “white wall.”

Pardon me, but I really don’t want to drive up to the Pearly Gates, and then have to explain to Saint Peter that I had just been killed … by my car.

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Old 02-20-2024, 08:35 PM   #51
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I own such a car and once you know its limitations and have tweaked the settings to your liking it works just fine or really I guess as expected. The problem is that you have to figure it out on your own. Being a pilot you have to know your personal limitations as well as the limitations of the plane you are flying...
 
Old 02-21-2024, 08:37 AM   #52
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My evil mind considers painting a picture of an open road on the back of a truck.
 
Old 02-21-2024, 08:41 AM   #53
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I am eager to drive a full EV rather than the hybrids I have been driving. I welcome some subtle driver assist to help avoid accidents! The "self driving" feature would never get turned on in a car I am driving: I LIKE to drive!

Looking at AI (which is not artificial really, and is certainly not intelligence!) and the kind of cruft it outputs even from the best data input, trusting machine processing to properly process poorly defined data with unpredictable randomized elements with my life is not gonna happen. I understand the way they work just a little too well for that.

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Old 02-21-2024, 08:59 AM   #54
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I am eager to drive a full EV rather than the hybrids I have been driving. I welcome some subtle driver assist to help avoid accidents! The "self driving" feature would never get turned on in a car I am driving: I LIKE to drive!

Looking at AI (which is not artificial really, and is certainly not intelligence!) and the kind of cruft it outputs even from the best data input, trusting machine processing to properly process poorly defined data with unpredictable randomized elements with my life is not gonna happen. I understand the way they work just a little too well for that.
I might start to trust a self-driving car if they can get the auto-flush toilets working correctly first.
 
Old 02-21-2024, 11:19 AM   #55
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Q. What does it say on the bottom of every beer bottle in Minnesota?
A. "Open other end."
After looking at this thread, I'm beginning to believe it.
 
Old 02-22-2024, 06:33 PM   #56
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I might start to trust a self-driving car if they can get the auto-flush toilets working correctly first.
You meant self-driving RV ?
I'd love to get one.
 
Old 02-24-2024, 11:25 PM   #57
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You meant self-driving RV ?
I'd love to get one.
I think he means we can't even get the technology of automatic flush toilets to detect people right. Lean forward the wrong way and it flushes unexpectantly. Get up when done and doesn't do anything, have to find the manual flush button, etc, which are never as easy to find as the regular handles. I personally think automatic sinks are even worse than the self flushing toilets tho.

But as to vehicles with toilets, those aren't limited to RVs! Some Rolls Royce in the 1950s had toilet in the back seat, i.e. 1954 Rolls Royce Vignale.
Or this guy in 2009 who installed one for his passenger. That seems less convenient. A driver seat version makes more sense. Certainly more convenient than a pee funnel.

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Old 02-25-2024, 04:25 AM   #58
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I don't think you guys have done any worst-case analysis here. Like the guy who stinks the jacks out, or the guy having a difficult dump at the traffic lights?

Can one of you post a link to something for sale featuring a loo as a standard or extra fitting?
 
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I don't think you guys have done any worst-case analysis here. Like the guy who stinks the jacks out, or the guy having a difficult dump at the traffic lights?

Can one of you post a link to something for sale featuring a loo as a standard or extra fitting?
I think I would really rather not.
Also, it seems a bit off topic.
 
Old 03-13-2024, 11:58 AM   #60
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I'm studying the assembly instructions for my scale H0 locomotive engine shed, every part is made of plastic/polystyren, beautifully detailed, a pleasure to work with... but eating it??

From the manual: "Not intended for human consumption."

I've honestly never thought of that, but does it mean I can sue them if feeding the cat with it and it dies?
 
  


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