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View Poll Results: Your stance on weapons law
Pro gun (all guns for self defence) 13 36.11%
Anti gun (no guns for self defence) 11 30.56%
Selective gun (only selected guns for self defence) 6 16.67%
other option 6 16.67%
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Old 04-25-2019, 05:25 PM   #151
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Originally Posted by enorbet View Post
While that has truth in it, it is dependent on environmental experience. What I mean is that children brought up around guns develop that sense of seriousness about firearms that becomes ingrained and fundamental where emotional isn't an issue. It is people who never went through that process, who maybe pickup a firearm once a year for a week's hunting trip, or worse, after they've bought a gun, pack it away and never get it out until something goes bump in the night that are subject to emotions and whim as well as irresponsible behavior since they have no experience they are irresponsible let alone the possible consequences.

It is analogous to practicing to pass your driving test to get a license and never driving for years and then being thrust into freeway driving where the first guy that cuts you off may result in road rage and bad choices or a simple rain storm may fill you with such second-guessing fear your lack of skill comes to the fore and you skid out of control. I don't know how city dwellers can easily amass such familiarity and experience but surely there are ways to impress upon people that driving a car or owning a firearm are not casual things. That problem to me is far easier to solve that a population devolving into sheep and the flip side of that coin, a ruling elite used to a compliant population where every whim can become Law, whether actually written, or even spoken, at all. In a word - Entitlement.
Also similar in theory to how European kids/teenagers/young adults tend to respect alcohol more since they grow up around it and can even drink watered down versions. Regarding your second analogy: I remember the first time I drove 441 from Cherokee NC to Gatlinburg TN cutting right through the Great Smokey Mountains. White knuckle drive for me in low gear, locals zipping by as soon as they have the chance to pass. Mentioned this to a woman at the local hiking shop and she said "shoot, I go about 75-80 on that road...when its raining!"
Old 04-25-2019, 05:26 PM   #152
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I wish there was a way to tell how many of the "Anti Gun voters" in this poll are not from the USA. Seems a wee bit skewed.
Old 04-27-2019, 12:53 AM   #153
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Originally Posted by ondoho View Post
this thread is now devolving into pro-gun folks telling anti-gun folks that they are sissies and snowflakes (and whatever else/similar). {...}
Well but that notion is mostly true. I do not have victim complex(just health issues and society brainwashing) but i understand where this message comes from by now with more exp from life gained(even while not owning license myself) cause over time without exposure to weapons and training(training also requires stable psycho state otherwise having weapons license will make people into unstable manhunters) etc. people do become unready to use them or solve conflict IRL FlightOrFight situation(s) therefore respond very similar way like those "sissies and snowflakes" you mentioned. This is just another case of being upset on unpleasant truth. Same goes for video games make people weak and unhealthy food make people weak situation. They do not make them actually weak(given enough time process is fixable) but they meake them weaker in emergency situation(s) cause obviousity : instead of children spending time improving themselves growing up learning martial arts and other self-growth skills they are preventing self-growth by playing video games or eating unhealthy food but in FlightOrFight situation(s) acquired selfgrowth skills decides outcome. They do not make people weak by spirit but in a war situation or conflict none cares that spirit is not weak cause body is weak to be injured or killed and this is where that notion about "sissies and snowflakes" are. They are sissies cause not have emotionaly ready to handle gun without self-control issues and snowflakes cause not know how to use weapons properly but teach others usually. Just like on YouTube(there should be findable episode scene from Penn & Teller who show that untrained video game player is shooting gun wrong by default and unstable).

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