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Old 02-28-2021, 03:25 AM   #31
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5G has been a hot topic for a while...time will tell I guess.

However, reason why I am posting this message, in this thread, is that I found that turning off my mobile phone before going to bed has improved my sleep and given me well rested feeling after waking up. I've been doing it for a month now.

Try it for a week. It works.
 
Old 02-28-2021, 04:52 AM   #32
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Is 5G healthy?
I wouldnt eat it
 
Old 02-28-2021, 05:17 AM   #33
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5G has been a hot topic for a while...time will tell I guess.

However, reason why I am posting this message, in this thread, is that I found that turning off my mobile phone before going to bed has improved my sleep and given me well rested feeling after waking up. I've been doing it for a month now.

Try it for a week. It works.
That has nothing to do with radiation. It's the bluish light from the screen that resets your body clock to believe it's early morning and not night time. You should not watch computer or phone screens for at least an hour before going to bed.
 
Old 02-28-2021, 11:29 PM   #34
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That has nothing to do with radiation. It's the bluish light from the screen that resets your body clock to believe it's early morning and not night time. You should not watch computer or phone screens for at least an hour before going to bed.
I think your right. I use my computer up until I go to bed, then turn it off and toss and turn for a while. I recently decided to read instead. It worked.
 
Old 03-05-2021, 08:37 AM   #35
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@hazel -- Light is radiation and it obviously affects the brain!

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Old 03-05-2021, 08:40 AM   #36
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@hazel -- Light is radiation and it obviously affects the brain!
Technically yes. I was thinking of scarier kinds of radiation like microwaves or gamma rays. The conspiracy theorists who think that phones or 5G aerials are giving off harmful radiation certainly are not referring to the visible light from the screen.

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Old 03-05-2021, 08:51 AM   #37
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@hazel -- . . . it obviously affects the brain!
even visible light. Is it far-fetched to be concerned about such with microwaves (5G uses microwave bands of frequencies)?


Not making assumptions, just curious as to public awareness.
 
Old 03-05-2021, 09:08 AM   #38
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Microwaves have a very bad rep because in the early days of microwave ovens, some of them leaked harmful radiation. There were horrific stories of people's innards being "cooked". Obviously there are stringent standards nowadays to stop that happening.
 
Old 03-05-2021, 02:09 PM   #39
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FWIW in 2005 it was reported that the pentagon was endorsing research to try to use radar, specifically AESA, as a weapon. 15 years later it appears they've been unsuccessful. Maybe they were influenced by a 1934 rumor that the Third Reich had developed a "Death Ray". Almost 90 years later nobody has a death ray and men routinely work in and around radio and radar transmitter stations with no ill effects even where concentration is high.

It's rather important to note that a so-called Death Ray by definition is a tightly focused beam of high energy. Much like how ants are not fried by the sun unless some little boy manages to focus a beam with a magnifying lens, diffuse energy above or below the spectrum of light is rarely dangerous to life. In fact ultrasound, shortwave, and microwaves are used in physical therapy called diathermy and started as far back as 1905.

Much like public perception of nuclear energy is based on myth and half-truth, to most people the very word "radiation" holds danger, while an application such as "radiant heat" seems safe and useful. Such biased perceptions are ignorance in action. Anybody actually worried about 5G generally just needs to do some research on the 4 kinds of radiation and power levels required per square inch to do work, whether beneficial or dangerous. You may also wish to consider that given how long human military regimes have invested in technology as weaponry, just why has no military ever developed a weapon employing electromagnetic radiation/radio.

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Old 03-05-2021, 09:06 PM   #40
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@enorbet --
Whatever became of Pulse Weapon Technology?
 
Old 03-06-2021, 04:47 AM   #41
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Much like public perception of nuclear energy is based on myth and half-truth, to most people the very word "radiation" holds danger, while an application such as "radiant heat" seems safe and useful. Such biased perceptions are ignorance in action.
When I was doing my research degree, there was a thing called Nuclear Magnetic Resonance or NMR. Basically it involved putting a sample into a very powerful oscillating magnetic field and gradually changing the frequency of oscillation. At a certain frequency, hydrogen nuclei in the sample would vibrate in resonance and this would generate a signal. Nuclei in different positions in the molecule would have slightly different resonant frequencies, so you could identify the different types of bonds.

Later someone had the brilliant idea of using a computer to transform these signals into light or dark pixels in an image, so that you could use it as a scanning technique on living bodies. Bodies after all are full of water and therefore full of hydrogen atoms. But nobody wanted to be put into a "Nuclear Magnetic Resonance" machine because they feared it would make them radioactive.

So they took out the word "Nuclear" and called it Magnetic Resonance Imaging or MRI and no one is afraid any more.

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Old 03-06-2021, 08:13 AM   #42
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@hazel -- Light is radiation and it obviously affects the brain!
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even visible light. Is it far-fetched to be concerned about such with microwaves (5G uses microwave bands of frequencies)?
There is a difference though: the brain has visible light sensors attached (your eyes), whereas there are no microwave sensors we can point to.
 
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There is a difference though: the brain has visible light sensors attached (your eyes), whereas there are no microwave sensors we can point to.

Yes, and apparently it is the pulsing of the light we do not consciously detect (but our brains do) that can affect brain centers leading to such things as inability to get to sleep quickly, etc.


This thread brought the memory of pulse weapon technology back to mind. Hence my quesion to a previous poster.



Which leads to the question of the safety of Smart Meters, which pulse wifi radio waves at a high rate continuously. Many electrical utilities are installing them now. Perhaps another thread . . . ?


@hazel -- you have led an interesting life! Re: MRI -- I had the second one ever done at the order of a DO late last December. My tesicles are still tingling! Oh well, at this stage they are of not much use to me, anyways. LOL!
 
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FWIW Pulse Weapon Technology mostly targets electronics, not living cells and for exactly the reasons I and many others have been noting - power requirements and frequency effects. The power of 5G transmitters, let alone receivers like your WiFi or Smartphone, is a few watts (smartphones 1 watt) .. not enough at any frequency to do cell harm. Consider the massive wattage used in any MRI machine and that they still do no damage for a reference. An example of one type of MRI uses 480 volts, 3 Phase, at 200 Amperes which is just short of 100,000 watts. Weapons use megawatts and gigawatts.
 
Old 03-06-2021, 03:21 PM   #45
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(smartphones 1 watt)
I tell people that if the electromagnetic waves from cellphones were visible, they would be about as bright as a small flashlight.

A much more effective way to reduce exposure to electromagnetic waves is to stay out of direct sunlight (1000W/m^2).
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