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Old 06-26-2017, 12:57 PM   #1
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IRC or Chat Portal with no IP tracking, no Google or FBI-ing, and no login ?


Hello,

Today try to get a new email account without giving your phone number, grant accesses,...

Considering that if you get into IRC, you're going to be traced, followed, and you maybe eventually will get a brute force on your server.

There is however the possible cloak but still, it looks to me not complete freedom, despite that it would be realizable.

Would you know a possible chat portal, GNU, that do not bring all your privacy, life, contact data, and more to US government and Google, or similar?
 
Old 06-26-2017, 01:05 PM   #2
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What, specifically, are you trying to hide from the U.S. government?
 
Old 06-26-2017, 01:08 PM   #3
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What, specifically, are you trying to hide from the U.S. government?
all type of drugs, rocket launcher, fight club in my garage, selling weapons in soaps, alcohol,... and having Free FreeBSD and Linux

I had Windows many years ago, but that's much worst than the above list
 
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A past with Windows? Oh dear.

I don't use it myself, but I'm pretty sure TOR is intended to be what you're asking about.
 
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A past with Windows? Oh dear.
- Is that reallllly bad, doc?
 
Old 06-27-2017, 12:24 PM   #6
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Ever thought about using a VPN service?
 
Old 06-27-2017, 02:33 PM   #7
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Ever thought about using a VPN service?

Proxy, hidding ips,...well possible, but what about free Open/GNU IRC platforms for complete freedom, there arent risks, since the server can see ip, but keep them not published on the world
 
Old 06-28-2017, 09:46 AM   #8
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Proxy, hidding ips,...well possible, but what about free Open/GNU IRC platforms for complete freedom, there arent risks, since the server can see ip, but keep them not published on the world
I'm not so sure about no one being not being able to see your ip address. IRC is going to show what ip you are connected from.
 
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I'm not so sure about no one being not being able to see your ip address. IRC is going to show what ip you are connected from.
What does it bring to show everyone the IP of others?
The server could keep that hidden.

We don't show the IP of all visiting the LQ website, right?
 
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TOR is actually intended to "see to it that the message gets through" on a network that might be hostile to it. It doesn't provide anonymity. Anything that you send or receive on this highly-public network can be intercepted as part of surveillance and traffic analysis. You can encrypt the data as you like, and you should encrypt everything that you send, but if you're ever served with a search warrant asking for the keys you'd better be prepared to hand them over with a smile.

Anyone who runs an IRC or any similar public-facing service is going to maintain records, because those could be subpoenaed at any time and the IRC does not want to be seen as an accessory to any crime. Also, they may or may not permit you to "chat" using encrypted packets. Like it or not, the Internet is used to commit crime, and law-enforcement agencies do have a pro-active duty to be on the lookout for danger before it has the chance to strike. As a law-abiding citizen, you are entitled to privacy, but you have to know that law-enforcement is out there, too, and that it is sometimes their duty to ask questions. (As you would appreciate, if they suddenly revealed to you that they had just apprehended an online sociopath who had been scoping-out your daughter ...)

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Old 07-01-2017, 11:20 AM   #11
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Does Tor allow you to run IRC over tor /using default tor browser?

https://www.torproject.org/
 
Old 07-01-2017, 12:57 PM   #12
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Does Tor allow you to run IRC over tor /using default tor browser?
Tor allows IRC traffic so IRC clients that support SOCKS5 proxies can go via Tor.

However, the IRC servers themeselves tend to track and block any and all attempts at access from a known Tor exit node. Since the nodes are not secret, that means basically all are blocked and you can't use Tor. I think that, for example, Freenode allows Tor access for the moment with some restrictions. However, in the past it sometimes hasn't.
 
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http://www.teenvogue.com/story/how-t...essages-secure
 
Old 07-22-2017, 10:32 AM   #14
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The easiest way to hide your IP from other Freenode users is to use a cloak. To get one, register with NickServ and ask for one in the #freenode channel, as described in the FAQ.

You can ask for an unaffiliated cloak in #freenode. This is our standard
cloak and normally shows unaffiliated/youraccountname. You will need a
registered nickserv account. Remember to verify your email address. Some of our
registered groups offer their own cloaks for their projects. To obtain one of
these, you need to find the group contact for the group you are interested in,
and ask them to arrange the cloak for you.
Cloaks are not the safest solution though. A safer solution is to use TOR, as described here:

The primary Tor hidden service address for freenode is p4fsi4ockecnea7l.onion.
The service listens on ports 6667, 6697 (SSL), 7000 (SSL), and 7070 (SSL).
To connect, a NickServ account is needed, and the IRC client must be configured
to support SASL
Client-specific instructions for setting up SASL can be found here.

Is there maybe using TOR webbrowser a possibility to use a terminal programm to use IRC?


IRC FREENODE VERSUS OFTC ?
https://www.oftc.net/ is pretty ok, but needs TOR or proxy again.


OFTC is better ?
https://www.oftc.net/UserCloaks/

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Old 07-23-2017, 05:44 AM   #15
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The solution is to use OFTC.

They offer Cloak without asking the admins #oftc, like it should be by #freenode (so you place once public your ip)


https://www.oftc.net/UserCloaks/
 
  


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