LinuxQuestions.org
Visit Jeremy's Blog.
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Non-*NIX Forums > General
User Name
Password
General This forum is for non-technical general discussion which can include both Linux and non-Linux topics. Have fun!

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 05-01-2021, 01:49 AM   #16
ondoho
LQ Addict
 
Registered: Dec 2013
Posts: 17,088
Blog Entries: 10

Rep: Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130

I just listened to a podcast about phone scams (the above mentioned AARP's The Perfect Scam).
I was surprised at how big a problem this seems to be in the US of North A (or possible all English-speaking countries?). I think I can count on one hand the number of actual phone scams I have received in my whole adult life.
There's the occasional salesperson trying to sell something, but nothing on the scale described (a few times a year, maybe once a week on our work phone); and even though I don't like it, they are actual salespeople, not scammers.
 
Old 05-01-2021, 10:31 AM   #17
cwizardone
LQ Veteran
 
Registered: Feb 2007
Distribution: Slackware64-current with "True Multilib."
Posts: 6,544
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 3910Reputation: 3910Reputation: 3910Reputation: 3910Reputation: 3910Reputation: 3910Reputation: 3910Reputation: 3910Reputation: 3910Reputation: 3910Reputation: 3910
Quote:
Originally Posted by ondoho View Post
....
I was surprised at how big a problem this seems to be in the US of North A (or possible all English-speaking countries?). I think I can count on one hand the number of actual phone scams I have received in my whole adult life.....
On the 30th or 31st of October 2019, I received 25 or 26 robo-calls and/or text messages. That is NOT an exaggeration! The pandemic put an end to most of it, but "they" are starting to pick up again. Over this last week there were 12 calls and a handful of text messages.
And, yes, my number is on the National "Do Not Call" List.

Last edited by cwizardone; 05-01-2021 at 10:42 AM. Reason: Typo.
 
Old 05-01-2021, 10:35 AM   #18
scasey
LQ Veteran
 
Registered: Feb 2013
Location: Tucson, AZ, USA
Distribution: CentOS 7.8.2003
Posts: 5,405

Rep: Reputation: 2039Reputation: 2039Reputation: 2039Reputation: 2039Reputation: 2039Reputation: 2039Reputation: 2039Reputation: 2039Reputation: 2039Reputation: 2039Reputation: 2039
We get 5 to 10 every day on each of our two land lines. 2 to 3 daily on each of our two cell phones. (sigh)
 
Old 05-01-2021, 11:03 AM   #19
ondoho
LQ Addict
 
Registered: Dec 2013
Posts: 17,088
Blog Entries: 10

Rep: Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130
^ Ok, what about Britain, Australia, Ireland etc.?
 
Old 05-01-2021, 02:05 PM   #20
teckk
Senior Member
 
Registered: Oct 2004
Distribution: FreeBSD Arch
Posts: 3,455

Rep: Reputation: 1056Reputation: 1056Reputation: 1056Reputation: 1056Reputation: 1056Reputation: 1056Reputation: 1056Reputation: 1056
It's been bad here for 10 years. Which is why I block everything. If you answer them once, and hang up, they know that you are there, and they will put you on a list to keep calling. If you never answer, they call for 2 or 3 days, 2 or three times a day, then quit for a few weeks. I haven't answered them for years.

Been commercials on TV and radio for years telling people that the IRS, Police, Banks, Post office, that "we" don't call you like that. You would think that everyone would know that by now. But apparently not. The fact that they keep calling tells me that they are still able to scam some people for money.

When you hear the supposed lawful revenue collectors of a state, telling you on the phone that you owe money, and that you need to jump through some hoops, get a gift card from a store and then.... That should be a clue. If they were the lawful revenue authority, then they would freeze your bank account, garnish your wages etc. They don't need to mess around and threaten you. They get an order from a court of law and freeze your assets.
 
Old 05-02-2021, 10:33 AM   #22
jsbjsb001
Senior Member
 
Registered: Mar 2009
Location: Earth, unfortunately...
Distribution: Currently: OpenMandriva. Previously: openSUSE, PCLinuxOS, CentOS, among others over the years.
Posts: 3,867

Rep: Reputation: 2048Reputation: 2048Reputation: 2048Reputation: 2048Reputation: 2048Reputation: 2048Reputation: 2048Reputation: 2048Reputation: 2048Reputation: 2048Reputation: 2048
Quote:
Originally Posted by teckk View Post
...
When you hear the supposed lawful revenue collectors of a state, telling you on the phone that you owe money, and that you need to jump through some hoops, get a gift card from a store and then.... That should be a clue. If they were the lawful revenue authority, then they would freeze your bank account, garnish your wages etc. They don't need to mess around and threaten you. They get an order from a court of law and freeze your assets.
You'd think so wouldn't you? But people still fall for it...

Even at the supermarket I go to, they have a notice near the cash register saying something like "no legitimate business or government department or agency would ever ask you to pay by gift cards. If they are, it's a scam!".

I really don't personally understand how people can't see it's a scam if someone is asking you to pay them with gift cards, it's baffling to me how that isn't a red flag straight off the bat.

Your post reminds me of another call I got (this time in English) saying something about the "legal department" of the government agency that does drivers licenses here... I hung up straight away. Haven't heard anything since...

In any case, and at least here in Australia if it's the police, they'll physically come to your house and show ID if they want to talk to you about something, or send an actual letter to you via the post if you've requested a police check or something similar and it's not in relation to a crime they think you've committed. Any other government agency here will send you an actual letter via the post if you owe money to the government. They won't ring you up out of the blue and ask you to pay them in gift cards.
 
Old 05-02-2021, 11:03 AM   #23
hazel
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Mar 2016
Location: Harrow, UK
Distribution: LFS, AntiX, Slackware
Posts: 5,394
Blog Entries: 16

Rep: Reputation: 3225Reputation: 3225Reputation: 3225Reputation: 3225Reputation: 3225Reputation: 3225Reputation: 3225Reputation: 3225Reputation: 3225Reputation: 3225Reputation: 3225
Quote:
Originally Posted by ondoho View Post
^ Ok, what about Britain, Australia, Ireland etc.?
There's a lot of it in the UK. Most of the ones that I get are robots that hang up as soon as I lift the phone but occasionally I get a recording from "your internet provider" or more specifically "BT Internet" (who are not my internet provider btw) threatening to cut off my access because they've detected illegal activity. I have also had a couple from "HMRC" telling me that I will get a criminal record if I don't pay my overdue taxes. Funnily enough the HMRC ones often come in an American accent. The civil service must be in a pretty desperate state since I left it!

Some people will probably ask why I pick up the phone. The answer is that I have an old-fashioned phone without caller display and I need to check that a call isn't actually from someone I would want to talk to. I don't think it costs me anything to pick up the receiver and put it down again. The only thing that really annoys me is if it rings when I am upstairs and I end up coming down for no reason.

Last edited by hazel; 05-02-2021 at 11:05 AM.
 
Old 05-02-2021, 03:09 PM   #24
ondoho
LQ Addict
 
Registered: Dec 2013
Posts: 17,088
Blog Entries: 10

Rep: Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130
^ thanks hazel, and indirectly jsb001.
So it seems to be an issue in other (at least English-speaking) countries as well.
I must truly be living in a paradise, unspoiled by the harshness that is phone scams.
 
Old 05-02-2021, 05:27 PM   #25
Emerson
LQ Sage
 
Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Saint Amant, Acadiana
Distribution: Gentoo ~arch
Posts: 7,231

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Scamming simpletons seems to be flourishing business. I was bored once and I put an ad to Craigslist, computer repair. I got a bunch of callers, 100% scam. All of them tried to pay me with a larger check and requested part of it paid back to them in cash. Those scammers wouldn't be out there if people didn't fall for them.
 
Old 05-03-2021, 01:32 AM   #26
ondoho
LQ Addict
 
Registered: Dec 2013
Posts: 17,088
Blog Entries: 10

Rep: Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130Reputation: 5130
^ That's how they cut their teeth I suppose - on craigslist and similar sites.
I guess I got in contact with such (amateur) scammers over the years. Not necessarily over the phone; I find it best to ask many questions - it will soon reveal their true nature, at which point I tell them what I think of them in no uncertain terms.
 
Old 05-06-2021, 06:04 AM   #27
hazel
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Mar 2016
Location: Harrow, UK
Distribution: LFS, AntiX, Slackware
Posts: 5,394
Blog Entries: 16

Rep: Reputation: 3225Reputation: 3225Reputation: 3225Reputation: 3225Reputation: 3225Reputation: 3225Reputation: 3225Reputation: 3225Reputation: 3225Reputation: 3225Reputation: 3225
This came in just now on my landline
Quote:
Thank you for placing an order with Amazon. You have been charged £300.
I didn't wait to hear what I was supposed to do about it. As if I'd ever use Amazon anyway!
 
  


Reply

Tags
robo-calls, teamviewer, tech support scam


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[SOLVED] boot loader robo linux joe torino Linux - Hardware 4 10-16-2018 11:52 AM
LXer: How to feed and raise a Wikipedia robo-editor LXer Syndicated Linux News 0 12-18-2015 10:43 AM
ROBO LINUX on a MAC PPC okamo486 Linux - Newbie 7 11-04-2014 08:24 PM
LXer: The Robo Cloud Is Coming LXer Syndicated Linux News 0 03-10-2013 07:00 PM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Non-*NIX Forums > General

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:50 AM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration