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ondoho 05-01-2021 01:49 AM

I just listened to a podcast about phone scams (the above mentioned AARP's The Perfect Scam).
I was surprised at how big a problem this seems to be in the US of North A (or possible all English-speaking countries?). I think I can count on one hand the number of actual phone scams I have received in my whole adult life.
There's the occasional salesperson trying to sell something, but nothing on the scale described (a few times a year, maybe once a week on our work phone); and even though I don't like it, they are actual salespeople, not scammers.

cwizardone 05-01-2021 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by ondoho (Post 6246786)
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I was surprised at how big a problem this seems to be in the US of North A (or possible all English-speaking countries?). I think I can count on one hand the number of actual phone scams I have received in my whole adult life.....

On the 30th or 31st of October 2019, I received 25 or 26 robo-calls and/or text messages. That is NOT an exaggeration! The pandemic put an end to most of it, but "they" are starting to pick up again. Over this last week there were 12 calls and a handful of text messages.
And, yes, my number is on the National "Do Not Call" List.

scasey 05-01-2021 10:35 AM

We get 5 to 10 every day on each of our two land lines. 2 to 3 daily on each of our two cell phones. (sigh)

ondoho 05-01-2021 11:03 AM

^ Ok, what about Britain, Australia, Ireland etc.?

teckk 05-01-2021 02:05 PM

It's been bad here for 10 years. Which is why I block everything. If you answer them once, and hang up, they know that you are there, and they will put you on a list to keep calling. If you never answer, they call for 2 or 3 days, 2 or three times a day, then quit for a few weeks. I haven't answered them for years.

Been commercials on TV and radio for years telling people that the IRS, Police, Banks, Post office, that "we" don't call you like that. You would think that everyone would know that by now. But apparently not. The fact that they keep calling tells me that they are still able to scam some people for money.

When you hear the supposed lawful revenue collectors of a state, telling you on the phone that you owe money, and that you need to jump through some hoops, get a gift card from a store and then.... That should be a clue. If they were the lawful revenue authority, then they would freeze your bank account, garnish your wages etc. They don't need to mess around and threaten you. They get an order from a court of law and freeze your assets.

teckk 05-01-2021 05:15 PM

If you can name it, they will try it.

A few short examples/warnings.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zP9VAyfj6iI
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dab1uNDqAGs
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wzypSggyKjg
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IDUu2-MvK-E
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KWsLAn6m_04
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_VcBBIGs36k
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=je9_cSPtXyM
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=k_5usyHKAlQ
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NGoRQzUFPmc

jsbjsb001 05-02-2021 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by teckk (Post 6246994)
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When you hear the supposed lawful revenue collectors of a state, telling you on the phone that you owe money, and that you need to jump through some hoops, get a gift card from a store and then.... That should be a clue. If they were the lawful revenue authority, then they would freeze your bank account, garnish your wages etc. They don't need to mess around and threaten you. They get an order from a court of law and freeze your assets.

You'd think so wouldn't you? But people still fall for it...

Even at the supermarket I go to, they have a notice near the cash register saying something like "no legitimate business or government department or agency would ever ask you to pay by gift cards. If they are, it's a scam!".

I really don't personally understand how people can't see it's a scam if someone is asking you to pay them with gift cards, it's baffling to me how that isn't a red flag straight off the bat. :scratch:

Your post reminds me of another call I got (this time in English) saying something about the "legal department" of the government agency that does drivers licenses here... I hung up straight away. Haven't heard anything since...

In any case, and at least here in Australia if it's the police, they'll physically come to your house and show ID if they want to talk to you about something, or send an actual letter to you via the post if you've requested a police check or something similar and it's not in relation to a crime they think you've committed. Any other government agency here will send you an actual letter via the post if you owe money to the government. They won't ring you up out of the blue and ask you to pay them in gift cards.

hazel 05-02-2021 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by ondoho (Post 6246933)
^ Ok, what about Britain, Australia, Ireland etc.?

There's a lot of it in the UK. Most of the ones that I get are robots that hang up as soon as I lift the phone but occasionally I get a recording from "your internet provider" or more specifically "BT Internet" (who are not my internet provider btw) threatening to cut off my access because they've detected illegal activity. I have also had a couple from "HMRC" telling me that I will get a criminal record if I don't pay my overdue taxes. Funnily enough the HMRC ones often come in an American accent. The civil service must be in a pretty desperate state since I left it!

Some people will probably ask why I pick up the phone. The answer is that I have an old-fashioned phone without caller display and I need to check that a call isn't actually from someone I would want to talk to. I don't think it costs me anything to pick up the receiver and put it down again. The only thing that really annoys me is if it rings when I am upstairs and I end up coming down for no reason.

ondoho 05-02-2021 03:09 PM

^ thanks hazel, and indirectly jsb001.
So it seems to be an issue in other (at least English-speaking) countries as well.
I must truly be living in a paradise, unspoiled by the harshness that is phone scams.

Emerson 05-02-2021 05:27 PM

Scamming simpletons seems to be flourishing business. I was bored once and I put an ad to Craigslist, computer repair. I got a bunch of callers, 100% scam. All of them tried to pay me with a larger check and requested part of it paid back to them in cash. Those scammers wouldn't be out there if people didn't fall for them.

ondoho 05-03-2021 01:32 AM

^ That's how they cut their teeth I suppose - on craigslist and similar sites.
I guess I got in contact with such (amateur) scammers over the years. Not necessarily over the phone; I find it best to ask many questions - it will soon reveal their true nature, at which point I tell them what I think of them in no uncertain terms.

hazel 05-06-2021 06:04 AM

This came in just now on my landline
Quote:

Thank you for placing an order with Amazon. You have been charged 300.
I didn't wait to hear what I was supposed to do about it. As if I'd ever use Amazon anyway!

cwizardone 05-17-2021 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by cwizardone (Post 6246256)
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They often started with a recording in English saying they are from the Chinese Consulate or some division of a major bank, etc., and then played a recorded message in one of the two main Chinese delects. The text messages were usually addressed to a, Miaoling..........

These calls started again today. Oh, well, it was a nice break while it lasted.

Trihexagonal 06-02-2021 02:29 PM

That makes my day when they call. I get to do some random of the top of my head improvisation and acting.

I like to go frantic on them. Microsoft Tech Support called me once to inform me I had a virus on my PC. My FreeBSD Thinkpads, that is.

I said "Oh, no! I probably got it watching porn. Go to google and search elephant porn. You're there? What do you see? Porn? I bet you've got the same virus on your machine as I do mine. Click."

I've got a couple calls recently about strange activity with my SS#. "OH EM GEE! What's it done now? That crazy number... How much is it going to cost me to bail it out this time? It didn't involve looking up someones dress this time, did it? That was so embarrassing. My name? Well if you have my SS# you have my name then, don't you? You ignorant %$&*)$#"

hazel 06-04-2021 05:28 AM

I think I've just come across a new one. At least it's one I haven't met before. Some of you might be able to enlighten me.

I got a call from a young woman with an MLE accent telling me that the insurance cover on my washing machine is running out and ought to be renewed. Now my memory is not what it was, but I'm pretty sure that I never had any kind of insurance on that machine. It's quite old; it might even go back to my mother's time! Any built-in cover would have run out after a year or two, and I never buy extra cover for appliances because I don't think it's worth the price they charge. So I think this was a scam.

PS I just googled and found this reference: https://conversation.which.co.uk/mon...ld-call-scams/. It seems my instincts were correct.


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