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jlinkels 04-04-2015 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Xeratul (Post 5342617)
"Now start moving and increase that to a level of 6 hours a week"... I simply cannot find the time.

My point is: if you can't make the time, there is no use in posting about it either. You'd better spend the time on even more programming if that keeps you so busy.

Besides, nonsense you can't find the time. Every week I travel 2 or 3 days. The day of departure I get up at 05:15 and do an hour of bicyling. The next day (on my destination) I squeeze in 70 minutes of running between end of work and dinner. Then the 3rd day when I come home I swim for 40 minutes. But I prepare my weekly agenda in advance including exercising. And plan the rest of my schedule, meetings, presentations, work around it.

I know exactly what you mean by not having time. The same goes for my tax return form. I am sooooo busy the three months that I have it lying in my inbox that I really can't make the time to fill it out. Right.

jlinkels

Germany_chris 04-05-2015 09:33 AM

You can find the time you just have to want to.

I run every day at lunch, and ride my bike to work unless I know I'm going to need it. I don't do it for my physical health I do it for my mental health I'm not a mellow person and running and riding my bike mitigate stress.

vmccord 04-06-2015 09:32 AM

The answer to the question of finding time is *priorities*. A lot of the things we think we *have* to do, we don't really....

I do something aerobic/anaerobic for an hour five days a week and the state of my house shows that I could really spend that time house cleaning. The dustbunnies are holding union meetings. Tuning out the voices that says your house needs to clean or you need to follow Fb or you need to watch TV or whatever to be normal is really hard.

I guess the thing is, you have to enjoy being active to make it a priority. Unfortunately like with all things there is a learning curve so getting to a point where an activity is enjoyable because you know how it goes and you are decent at it is tough. I am sure everyone here can relate in regards to their activities.

Hungry ghost 04-06-2015 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by vmccord (Post 5343334)
I guess the thing is, you have to enjoy being active to make it a priority. Unfortunately like with all things there is a learning curve so getting to a point where an activity is enjoyable because you know how it goes and you are decent at it is tough. I am sure everyone here can relate in regards to their activities.

I agree. It's not necessary to start exercising hard. Walking 3 times a week for one hour is a good start, doesn't take up too much time and is not hard to do (can even be very enjoyable, if you choose a nice location).

I started like this a few years ago. Now, besides walking 4 or 5 times a week, I do press-ups and chin-ups in some bars (not sure about their English name) in the park where I walk. I really enjoy it and I'd feel empty if I had to stop it.

rtmistler 04-06-2015 11:30 AM

I totally concur with the idea of starting slow and building up. I also want to repeat that you do need to learn to incorporate this into your life and learn to accept it, if not like it. I know a few people who, to their credit, do show up to the gym, but they hate (with venom) the fact that they have to work out. Call it age, heredity, or whatever, they need to be there to keep their self in shape, doctor's orders, or at the very least, obvious situation because if they stayed where they started at, then risk of heart attack, if not already had one, or risk of stroke, high blood pressure, high cholesterol. Many of them are there because it was discovered that they had some of these conditions and they really didn't want to take medication which has thousands of side effects and you see the TV commercial where they have a disclaimer rapidly spoken by an announcer as they show these people living great lives all due to the meds. They saw that and correctly realized that living dependent on a medication, where they could instead make lifestyle changes and not be on meds, the better alternative to them was to eat better and exercise.

My particular gym has very elderly people attending it. There's a lady who has a cane, she dropped it one time and had to ask me to retrieve it for her. I've held the door as she's been leaving while I was arriving, it takes her about 5+ minutes to get through the double doors. Still, she goes to the gym to extend her life. Otherwise who knows how bad off she'd be.

The benefits of exercise are off the charts.

Cardio benefits. Lower blood pressure. The capability to control your appetite. Increased flexibility. Disease resistance. (Can't remember the last time I had an actual cold). Weight control. Stress control. It's all wrapped up together with regular exercise.

And ... when I go on vacation, firstly we go somewhere active like a theme park. So I'm up all day, walking, etc. I don't exercise. I return and I've really lost none of my lung capacity or leg strength, in fact my body feels very rested. So you don't lose it in a week or two, sometimes that rest does you good, but staying regular on an everyday basis is clearly very helpful to your life quality overall.

Other benefits? Like to your digestive system, or your capabilities for intimacy? It helps there too. :)

Xeratul 05-27-2015 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by rtmistler (Post 5343399)
The benefits of exercise are off the charts.

Cardio benefits. Lower blood pressure. The capability to control your appetite. Increased flexibility. Disease resistance. (Can't remember the last time I had an actual cold). Weight control. Stress control. It's all wrapped up together with regular exercise.

However, you may advise how not to skip the fitness/cardio daily when you have quite a lot of work - or too much... to skip it is a good solution to get some more time, but it results in health problems since you haven't a way to reduce stress.

Check this pic which might illustrate why so many have tendancy to skip fitness. Might have you really the choice to keep an equilibrated life style balance?

enorbet 05-27-2015 07:45 AM

Nobody is going to like this inconvenient fact but apparently fasting is rather a big deal as well as low caloric intake in addition to exerciae. Not only did studies of a nearly closed community that kept amazing records shown that especially healthy long-lived people came from families hit by famine 2 generations prior, but a man, (whose name I currently forget) I think a scientist who participated in the BioSphere experiment and whose health was decimated iirc by Radon accumulation was given just a couple years to live and he has survived more than 20 years since. His studies to determine how he could make his body as strong as possible revealed a strenuous exercise regime, a tightly controlled diet extremely bent toward very fresh foods and punctuated by fasting is at least some evidence that his research. conclusions, and dedication are responsible.

I watched a documentary on him once and it seems to me he is published as well. I'll see if I can find him and get an update.

edit: PS - Ah! Not that hard. He is Roy Walford who finally died in 2004 at age 79 from ALS which is apparently one condition exacerbated by caloric restriction since part of it's symptomatic behavior is inability to process calories from food.

rtmistler 05-27-2015 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Xeratul (Post 5368016)
However, you may advise how not to skip the fitness/cardio daily when you have quite a lot of work - or too much... to skip it is a good solution to get some more time, but it results in health problems since you haven't a way to reduce stress.

Check this pic which might illustrate why so many have tendancy to skip fitness. Might have you really the choice to keep an equilibrated life style balance?

The old saying of bringing the horse to water and not being able to make it drink applies.

Nike "Just do it!" For those who have never done any exercise, then get training, join a gym and use a personal trainer to show you things. See a nutritionist and learn about nutrition and healthy lifestyles. I can't hold someone's hand ... but if they exercise alongside me, I'll certainly encourage them.

Milford, MA. Gold's Gym. Weekday lunchtimes. Come on over! Seriously.
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Originally Posted by enorbet (Post 5368132)
Nobody is going to like this inconvenient fact but apparently fasting is rather a big deal as well. Not only did studies of a nearly closed community that kept amazing records shown that especially healthy long-lived people came from families hit by famine 2 generations prior, but a man, (whose name I currently forget) I think a scientist who participated in the first Bio Dome experiment and whose health was decimated iirc by Radon accumulation was given just a couple years to live and he has survived more than 20 years since. His studies to determine how he could make his body as strong as possible revealed a strenuous exercise regime, a tightly controlled diet extremely bent toward very fresh foods and punctuated by fasting is at least some evidence that his research. conclusions, and dedication are responsible.

I watched a documentary on him once and it seems to me he is published as well. I'll see if I can find him and get an update.

Not exactly that, but I've read research that people in their elder years who "appear" to be very underweight actually have stronger resistances to disease and other conditions. The thinking was that their body has to fight to maintain warmth due to their being very lightweight. On the subject of fasting, I don't practice it, but I've heard it lauded similarly. To retract actually, while I don't "fast", I may "cleanse", and that's not drinking Acai or other stuff, it's eating fundamentally to help reset my system if it started to get out of whack. I.e. way too much sugar, caffeine, little bit of roll starting in the middle ... I may then work at reducing those things or even eliminating them until I basically no longer care to have them. I've always been told that it takes about 3 weeks to a month for the body to "get used" to something. Be that cutting out soda, sugar, or starting exercise, or changing sleep habits. I don't know the exact measurement of time, and certainly it's different for everyone. Further, many of us "cheat" so it's not like we go cold turkey on a certain food, or exercise everyday regularly at first. As a result, the habit forming may take a bit longer. Different for everyone, and also different depending on their demeanor.

johnsfine 05-27-2015 08:30 AM

I have always found that exercising every day for extended periods just makes all the post exercise pains accumulate and intensify. Maybe someone generally stronger than me can do that. But I need recovery days.
In the six days ending yesterday, I bicycled 20 miles per day on four of the days, did about 20 hours total of vigorous yard work distributed over the six days, and kayaked several miles each on two of those days (and loading, unloading and carrying my own and my wife's kayaks to and from the launch point is also heavy exercise). That was not any sudden increase over what I have been doing for years, just a bit more than my average. But even building up to that gradually, I never get into the kind of shape where I can sustain that level of activity.
I had been planning to bicycle 20 miles to/from work again today, but woke up too late and too sore to do so. From a scheduling point of view, today wasn't a great day to take as a recovery day. But my body decided otherwise.

rtmistler 05-27-2015 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by johnsfine (Post 5368151)
I have always found that exercising every day for extended periods just makes all the post exercise pains accumulate and intensify. Maybe someone generally stronger than me can do that. But I need recovery days.
In the six days ending yesterday, I bicycled 20 miles per day on four of the days, did about 20 hours total of vigorous yard work distributed over the six days, and kayaked several miles each on two of those days (and loading, unloading and carrying my own and my wife's kayaks to and from the launch point is also heavy exercise). That was not any sudden increase over what I have been doing for years, just a bit more than my average. But even building up to that gradually, I never get into the kind of shape where I can sustain that level of activity.
I had been planning to bicycle 20 miles to/from work again today, but woke up too late and too sore to do so. From a scheduling point of view, today wasn't a great day to take as a recovery day. But my body decided otherwise.

You do have to take breaks. My regimen is harsh, but not as fully loaded as yours. Yes, it gets worse when the weather gets nice because you have lawn work and family activities. I absolutely do not perform organized workouts on the weekends. And if I miss 1-2 days during the week due to Memorial Day or Thanksgiving/Black Friday, then so be it. I've said earlier that in taking a vacation, say we go to a beach or theme park, ... I'm active during those days. I may go for a run but usually I'm too busy vacationing. A week or so I get back and my first day at the gym is monstrous because I have had that rest. Same thing for Monday workouts, or in the case of this week Tuesday workout. In fact I missed Friday due to a family member's health issue. So I was off for 4 days. Tuesday felt GREAT! You don't lose it if you take a day off. When you're riding high and can go hard for days on end, that's all great. But if you crash, then allow it to happen, let the body heal.

Xeratul 05-27-2015 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by rtmistler (Post 5368156)
You do have to take breaks. My regimen is harsh, ... But if you crash, then allow it to happen, let the body heal.

well, try to tell them to avoid "crashing" I do not believe that it is so easy. People are sometimes too perfectionist, or over loaded,... lazy as writen in the post.
Sport/Fitness is a possible solution if it isn't taking too much time and becoming an additional stress.

jlinkels 05-27-2015 10:18 AM

I totally agree with johnsfine and rtmistler. As I get older, recovery time seems to increase. Running 10 km with 48 hours in between is doable, but not always pleasant.
Like rtmistler, I skip exercising during the weekends (but never on weekdays, ever) and my Mondays are usually considerable better than Thursdays and Fridays.
I do cross-training, bicycling and swimming. Bicycling seems to retard the recovery process, while swimming seems to increase it.
On most days I exercise twice, in the morning and evening and that also seems to have an adverse effect on recovery.
Performing two exercises right one after another is less hard, so swimming-running is fine, as is swimming-bicycling. Bicycling-running is awkward during the first few kilometers, but less hard than running while not recovered from the morning or previous day.

jlinkels

metaschima 05-30-2015 06:13 PM

Chocolate milk helps your muscles recover. Eat nuts (unless allergic) and/or prunes to prevent joint problems.

fatmac 05-31-2015 06:18 AM

My old maxim - 'listen' to your body.

If you feel good, do it, if not, take a 'time out'.

(I really should do more myself, I've passed being 'overweight'; now it's harder to do any exercise.)

johnsfine 05-31-2015 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by fatmac (Post 5370159)
My old maxim - 'listen' to your body.

If you feel good, do it, if not, take a 'time out'.

That would never work for me. Exercise has never felt good for me. It hurts when I do it and hurts more afterward. The only time I really feel good is when I stop for a few weeks after months of painful exercise. But in the long run, stopping for weeks is worse than hurting all the time.

So if it feels bad, I do it anyway. If it is far far worse than bad, I take a day off.

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(I really should do moremyself, I've passed being 'overweight'; now it's harder to do any exercise.)
I have varied between obese and much heavier than obese (at the low end of that range now). I have always been active (compared to average adults) and usually ate less than average adults. I just have a problem metabolism. My recent large weight loss was during 16 weeks of 800 cal per day. I tried moderating that up to 1200 per day and despite increasing exercise I leveled off to no more weight loss (for another 18 weeks).


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