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Old 01-06-2004, 11:44 PM   #1
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Thumbs down I hate Microsoft threads but I thought people should see this.

Now I don't mind Windows as an OS. <ducks under table> It is great for my gaming needs. But the ad campaign that Microsoft is about to embark on is low. I feel like formating my last remaining Windows machine.

Sorry end rant. Here is the homepage for the upcoming campaign.

DOH! Sorry, I missed the previous thread on this topic. I was caught up in a moment of anger and posted without thinking. Feel free to ignore this thread.

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Old 01-07-2004, 01:16 AM   #2
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Thats probably because MS is finally seeing that lots of government agencies and others are migrating to linux for their sever needs and are making headway into the MS monopoly.
Old 01-07-2004, 01:23 PM   #3
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They had something similar on their site about a year ago. You can see how well it helped them increase sales.

The fact is, MS does not make headway into servers because of several reasons.

First, they are known more for a desktop OS

Second, they are known for security problems

Third, they have shown they do not care much for customer input

Forth, the 'nix have dominated in this arena for much longer time.

Fifth, companies and IT departments have limited budgets, and their pricing scheme is way WAY higher than to use Linux or other 'nix.

They can do whatever advertising they want, but I really dont think at this point they can help themselves.
Old 01-07-2004, 01:37 PM   #4
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Yes, this site and topic was already brought up two days ago, you can find it here:
Old 01-12-2004, 12:08 AM   #5
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Well posted here or in 131894, it's still true that the *get the facts* ad is a lowly effort! 'Nuff said!
Old 01-12-2004, 12:57 AM   #6
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I think Bill Gates is cowering in the corner of his home afraid of linux and won't confess in his interviews. Linux is a nightware! OMG its free, open source and even works right! Oh god, what are we going to do!

Just kidding bill if your reading this. But i do think microsoft is scared
Old 01-12-2004, 06:03 AM   #7
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Hello Pcghost, I was the one who posted that article before you. And now, I saw this on NewsForge, and am pretty happy with this news.

It is -->
Old 01-12-2004, 08:55 PM   #8
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The marketing prof's Windows PC crashed at the start of class today again while she was trying to give a presentation. That's the second class in a row it's happened to her. Our marketing exam grades were late too because of a crash on another faculy member's PC.

Go Windows! <from my bros colledge blog.
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It's times like these that I'm glad I don't use Windows.

I was thinking though, you know how some corporate big-wigs like are stupider than their staff? Well what if... Bill Gates was a great programmer *cough* *cough* and stuff but when he started M$ he got no idea of legalities or how to run a business, so he hired advisors and people to do that for him. Unfortunately he obviously hired a bunch of nutheads. Problem here is - he belived them.

What if I'm wrong too....

Amusing thought nonetheless....??

.:: misfit-x ::.
Old 01-12-2004, 09:36 PM   #10
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You know, that's really close to what must have happened!
Old 01-13-2004, 12:55 AM   #11
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if bill gates cant make it run good, he'll just make it look good
Old 01-13-2004, 11:30 AM   #12
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well windows always did have better fs servers than linux - not to hard though, was always a weak point for linux,
has 2.6.1 made it better? has anyone tested?
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I don't know about the File Server stuff, but I was *very* curious about the web server stuff, to say the least - so I opened up the report, and here's what I found.

First point of interest: Report prepared under contract of Microsoft. This lets us know that it's not an unbiased report.

Biggest Point of Interest: I stopped right here. Microsoft was claiming that Web Server dynamic output dwarfed that of its Linux counterpart. Then I saw their "test". They were comparing an ISAPI configured system with a Linux CGI configured system! I wanted to scream! No sh*t the Windows server outperformed the Linux system! CGI is a quapzillion times less efficient for processing dynamic content than when configured as a module (which would be the ISAPI IIS equivalent). This isn't even a comparable test!

GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR. That is very frustrating. I want to see the performance specs with their dynamic content when module configured with Apache, and none of that CGI to ISAPI comparison Bull Sh*t.

I don't know how the other tests stack up, but after seeing that, I don't really trust any of their claims (except that cost of maintaining staff and training are cheaper for Windows than for Linux - which seems kind of obvious to me).

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Old 01-13-2004, 12:11 PM   #14
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I will add in my 2cents worth to this thread.. Anyone who 'thinks' that the microsoft family of os is anywhere near advanced as linux cannot be serious. I have in the past personally taken this microsoft vs linux debate with a pinch of salt. I gave microsoft the benefit of the doubt & on my laptop kept windows xp. Frequently i got messages about 'automatic updates' click here .. so I clicked there... Time after friggin time.

I needed the data on my laptop for work. Believe me, the data was VITAL... Anyways, one day while using my computer a 'error report...please contact microsoft' dialog message came up on screen. The system shutdown, I must have tried over 30 times with every trick in the book to reboot & save my data...

I never recovered my data. I blame this on the false sence of security / competance that microsoft encourages people to believe about it.

I would not trust a microsoft os further than i could see it's source code. One day the miserable scam they run will be revealed for the world to see.

For me it is Linux Linux Linux all the way home. I have learned my lesson with microsoft.. the hard way.


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