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Old 03-02-2018, 08:41 AM   #31
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Nothing wrong with my neck at all. Just a bruise and a small scrape on the tip of my chin. No headaches and certainly no internal bruising because that would have shown up within 24 hours, like with that poor actress who died in Switzerland after a skiing fall. The doctors tested me out for neurological symptoms at the time and found nothing.

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Old 03-02-2018, 09:53 AM   #32
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Nothing wrong with my neck at all. Just a bruise and a small scrape on the tip of my chin. No headaches and certainly no internal bruising because that would have shown up within 24 hours, like with that poor actress who died in Switzerland after a skiing fall. The doctors tested me out for neurological symptoms at the time and found nothing.
You should still pay attention for any symptoms.

Alex Trebek, the host of Jeopardy, had to have surgery in December for a subdural hematoma, which was a complication from a fall in October. A chronic subdural hematoma can take weeks or months before symptoms appear because the blood collects very slowly, which also makes it hard to detect at first.

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Old 03-02-2018, 12:37 PM   #33
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You should still pay attention for any symptoms.
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The tip of the chin is the perfect location for transmitting kinetic energy into the brain depending on the angle of impact. In the right direction, on most people, a stout tap is enough.

However, best not to take any health advice from nerds and nerd-like entities on a Linux forum and instead depend on the skilled medical professionals you have there.

Working with the left hand will be an interesting challenge but hopefully not too interesting. It's surprising how many tools are asymmetrical and not really usable with the left hand. Keyboards are all layed out for the right hand, for example, though they are still usable. Scissors not so much.
 
Old 03-02-2018, 02:58 PM   #34
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Actually hair is worse than teeth. Especially as mine desperately needs a wash. I think I might try washing it today.

What complicates matters is that we have a cold snap right now (they're calling it The Beast from the East) and there is snow and ice outside. I can't risk going out until the thaw comes, because having one arm taped up affects your ability to deal with slips. But the BBC weather site predicts a thaw over the weekend, so hopefully I shall be able to go shopping on Monday and lay in supplies.
haha...women problems, with my hairline it is no worries.
 
Old 03-02-2018, 03:02 PM   #35
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Now that's something I would never have thought of before. I believe there is a Tai Kwondo class at our local leisure centre. Would that do? Knowing how to fall safely would be a great asset for a woman of my age.
Look up Tai Chi and Qigong classes, great for preventing falls among many other benefits.

In the UK you are fortunate to have Lam Kam Chuen, in addition to Qigong he is also a traditional bone setter and works with the NHS, the surgeries there refer alot of patients to him.
http://www.lamkamchuen.com/The_Master.html
 
Old 03-02-2018, 08:57 PM   #36
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Best wishes for a speedy recovery.
 
Old 03-03-2018, 02:51 AM   #37
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Thanks everyone for all the good wishes! It's nice to belong to a community like this. But the ramifications are spreading.

This morning I forgot my root password! It's the one I use on all my systems and it's quite complex. I have it stored in muscle memory. But muscle memory doesn't work when you are typing with the wrong hand. I tried to reconstruct it in my head with various permutations for the bits I wasn't sure of, but the damn system kept saying Login incorrect! Finally I stood up, which brought my right hand in its sling to keyboard height and then I was able to do it. I was beginning to think I would have to boot my System Rescue CD and remove the root password from /etc/shadow on each system so that I could reset it. That would have been a big job!
 
Old 03-03-2018, 04:27 AM   #38
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Hello hazel
I'm sorry to hear of your accident but it's good to see your spirits remain strong as ever. Although I was quite young at the time I broke the same arm twice.... the first time in two places and the second in just one place, roughly 5 years apart. Although we are both much older now I think all that means is the healing process is slowed but is just as potent. Please don't push it. Give yourself time to heal and plan your exercise progressively and you will be as good as ever, possibly even stronger. I've seen xrays of martial arts athletes and their bones become stronger with stress and this is apparently how a healthy body functions. You have solid reason for hope. Be well. Stay happy.
 
Old 03-03-2018, 05:00 AM   #39
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I don't have to plan anything. The physios at the hospital give me my exercise schedule and I am following it religiously. At the moment, that means frequent movement of fingers, wrist (rotary and up and down) and elbow (folding and unfolding with the left hand). I must not move the shoulder or put any weight on the arm.

In two weeks time, I will see them again. They will give me an X-ray and probably some gentle shoulder exercises too. It's tricky with a shoulder. If you leave it still for too long, it can get frozen. But these blokes know their business.

I think it's mostly men who try to go too fast after an injury. Men can't cope psychologically with being weak and helpless.
 
Old 03-03-2018, 07:09 AM   #40
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I fractured my arm and then broke it when I was a kid, but I don't remember managing to do it again since.

I'm surprised to hear you say good things about your NHS, given some of the bad PR it gets...

But, I'm sure your a strong lady Hazel, so you'll be all right. Remember...

Carry on, carry on...
 
Old 03-03-2018, 08:03 AM   #41
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I'm surprised to hear you say good things about your NHS, given some of the bad PR it gets...
Now this is something that I feel very strongly about. You don't say where you live, but I know there is a powerful political movement in the USA to rubbish the UK NHS in order to make their hellish, money-oriented system tolerable to its victims. If people over there knew how much better off they could be with a state system, they would revolt.

I'm not wearing rose-colored glasses here. The NHS has been systematically starved of funds for years. Where money is available, it goes on managers' salaries and wasteful "consultation exercises". Nurses are overworked and underpaid, so they tend to leave after a while. And there is some degree of (totally unofficial) rationing: when money is short, the young get priority, because treatment gives them more years of health. All the same, I much prefer this, morally speaking, to a system where the rich get first-rate care and the poor are sent home to die of completely treatable diseases. Look at some of Sundial's previous posts on this issue if you don't believe me.

A lot depends too on individual hospital management boards. My local hospital, Northwick Park, was very badly managed back in the 90s when my mother was a patient. Now it is greatly improved. They have shut down the old kitchens, which produced inedible gunk, and buy in steamable precooked meals. The nurses are still overworked and underpaid, but they are drawing them more from Africa and India, and less from Romania, where nurses were encouraged under the Ceaucescu regime to take a detached and rather callous attitude to their patients. All the nurses that I met were really caring and kind.

And it is free. I have been browsing websites, looking for information on arm fracture and dislocation. Most of the sites are American and their advice is slanted towards affordability, not need for care. For example, to go to an urgent care centre, not an emergency room because it is cheaper.

Of course, the NHS is not really free. We pay for it with our taxes. But that is much better than paying premiums to an insurance company and then finding that when you are ill, they won't fund the treatment you need.
 
Old 03-03-2018, 11:00 AM   #42
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I think it's mostly men who try to go too fast after an injury.
There are a lot of possible reasons, but the result is the same.

Anecdote: A friend who was very physically active once twisted his foot so that the ankle swelled up and he should stay off it for a few days. The doctor knew his stuff and put him in a full leg cast with instructions to come back in a week to have it off. He said they argued about that a bit, but the doctor was experienced enough to know how to keep a 20 year old from putting weight on his foot for a few days.

That muscle memory with typing is quite real. It's also affected by state of mind, not just posture.
 
Old 03-10-2018, 09:56 AM   #43
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How are you doing now Hazel ? Improved much ? Share an update, tx.
 
Old 03-10-2018, 01:52 PM   #44
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I'm much better. I feel quite steady on my feet and have made some small shopping trips, holding a bag on my left arm. I plan to do a proper shop on Tuesday with my trolley. Of course I walk slowly and check the ground very carefully. In the mean time friends have bought me quite a lot of long-term supplies.

I still can't walk the dog as I am scared of him pulling. However one of my friends from the local park walks him with her dog (the dogs know each other well) and I usually go along. The walks are good for me, I'm sure. They increase strength and balance and give a shape to my day.

I am not in any pain except when I wake up after a few hours' sleep. Then the arm feels stiff and achy, especially around the wrist. But working it a bit takes away the discomfort. My hand is also back to normal. A week ago, it was badly swollen but the fluid has been reabsorbed. I can write my signature normally again and perform simple tasks like spreading butter (which for some reason I cannot do with my left hand!)

I type mostly with the left hand and have set up a left-handed mouse. I still have problems with my root password: sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. So I use sudo a lot.

On Friday, I go back to the orthopaedic clinic for a check-up and they will tell me how things are doing. I will let the community know then.
 
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thanks for the update hazel...sounds like a good recovery so far. Hope the weather plays well so you can enjoy a few walks.
 
  


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