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Old 07-23-2018, 09:53 PM   #1
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I've gone over to the Dark Side


I've installed the Yandex browser (beta) and I am definitely impressed.
These folks are trying.
And it's refreshing that Vlad the Impaler II will now get the same info as the NSA. (Not sure if that's serious or not, you know?)

But the point is that the Yandex thing seems really well thought out.

Looking for other reviews - no McCarthyisms wanted.
 
Old 07-24-2018, 02:10 AM   #2
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I try not to use software from nations known to rip people off by cybercrime. Even some super-cheap Chinese android phones and tablets have keyloggers and backdoors built in from the factory.
 
Old 07-24-2018, 03:35 AM   #3
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I try not to use software from nations known to rip people off by cybercrime.
(...)

Okay, I am just quoting. Should I ask for definitions, for a list (of software or other) or should I just keep frowning for the rest of the day... We have a lot of cows around, suffering from the same kind of claw disease which is spreading all over the world for some time, now. Should we not avoid just anything from anybody known to rip us off by anything... And what, if we do?

“The French” (the “nation” ?), bomb “nations” for kicking out their water supply monopolist. Kind of a rip-off, that. Other “nations” are wiretapping just everybody, much in the way of cyber-criminals. Something must be wrong.

Just wondering. Maybe software, “nations” and rip-offs are overrated, nowadays and nothing matters anyway.

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Old 07-24-2018, 10:13 AM   #4
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I try not to use software from nations known to rip people off by cybercrime. Even some super-cheap Chinese android phones and tablets have keyloggers and backdoors built in from the factory.
Sounds like you're screwed. Name one country with no hackers
 
Old 07-24-2018, 01:55 PM   #5
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I try not to use software from nations known to rip people off by cybercrime. Even some super-cheap Chinese android phones and tablets have keyloggers and backdoors built in from the factory.
And so does that iPhone and expensive branded Android.
 
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Sounds like you're screwed. Name one country with no hackers
Perhaps: http://www.foxnews.com/travel/2013/0...can-visit.html
 
Old 07-24-2018, 02:06 PM   #7
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Oops I stand corrected but... I doubt any newsworthy software comes from those islands....Of course you never know
 
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Is this the same Yandex that does a search engine?
 
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As far as I know, this is a whole raft of stuff, just like Google etc.
 
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The problem isn't the crime itself. It happens from everywhere to everywhere. But certain governments take a hands-off approach to cyber criminals and allow them to flourish like an industry! I really don't think most android and apple phones and tablets are manufactured with built in keyloggers and back doors.

Yes, people might get infected after they purchase the device. That is totally different than a manufacturer booby-trapping products from the factory, and the government in jurisdiction refusing to put a stop to it! In the United States, if any citizen is caught committing cyber crime, (s)he is generally forbidden to even touch a computing device in the future!

The USA doesn't need the economic stimulus gotten through industrialized cyber crime. But many nations greatly benefit from it! So, I don't use software from nations in which the government refuses lift a finger in response to cyber crime.

There were two Russian brothers who stole $800.000.00 by computer, all from the USA. It took four years to identify them. The Russian government refused to apprehend and stop the criminals. So, the FBI posed as a software publisher offering these guys high-paying jobs.

When they landed at the airport, they were promptly taken into US custody. They were tried, convicted and imprisoned. If US citizens had perpetrated something similar, the full force of government would root them out, prosecute them, and imprison them!

Software from nations like the USA is safe to use, because there are severe penalties for cyber crime.
 
Old 07-25-2018, 09:44 AM   #11
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As far as I know, this is a whole raft of stuff, just like Google etc.
In that case, i might consider the dark side myself. Yandex as a search engine has been referring a goodly number of folks to my personal sites for years, (distant) second place only to Google. By contrast, Bing, Yahoo, etc crawl my site all the time with nary a referral. Have never noticed overmuch crawling by Yandex (unlike Bing), nor any other nefarious activity. Which is to say, they seem legit, at least as much as the big 'G'

Where do i take a look at the Yandex browser? Do you think it will run ok on an old Linux (Debian) system?
 
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Scratch that last post. Have found the Yandex browser download site, and there doesn't seem to be a Linux version available. Going to the site from my Android, i was redirected to the Google Play Store and was told to attach a Google account to my device in order to install Yandex.
 
Old 07-25-2018, 11:29 AM   #13
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https://browser.yandex.com

When you click on "Install", it will offer you Linux versions
 
Old 07-26-2018, 03:20 AM   #14
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I like people expressing opinions. And if they master a language far better than I do, I seek to read a lot of it. But distortion I can only accept for the output of an electric guitar.

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But many nations greatly benefit from it! So, I don't use software from nations in which the government refuses lift a finger in response to cyber crime.
I venture that it will not cost much to eliminate the word nation from this whole context. PSE do.
 
Old 07-26-2018, 06:16 AM   #15
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And of course what some "nations" do, while "technically" not illegal, is most definitely immoral and should be criminal. They hide behind "National Security" etc. and feel that justifies anything, while they call out others...who don't profess to be so pure.
 
  


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