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mendozaro 02-29-2008 05:18 AM

Helping to move completly to linux...
 
Project started: USING LINUX FOR DESKTOP

About the project:

This project is designed to help all indivuals and companies that want to or already have moved to linux.

Using this project you can get info about all the aspects related to this transition. Our main targets are individuals and small companies that whant to cut costs on proprietary software, get a safer work enviroment (from net hacks/attacks and from viruses).

This project is non profit orientated. We will never charge you for any thing. This project is tailored in the same spirit with ubuntu and the open source world.

All the articles that are and will be published on this web page are written by volunteers from the linux community.

If you whant to become a member:

The website is designed so that you and the members of the community built around linux can add content to it. The few requirements to apply to membership to this project are:

1. You need to be a proven community member on any appropriate forum that is related to the subject.
2. You need to know XHTML 1.0. Why? Because this web site is written in XHTML 1.0 strict, and we don't have any WYSIWYG editor embedded...

All this being said, if you consider you could help us and become a member of this project, please visit the projects web page http://1000races.com - your place to start racing towards linux, ubuntu and freedom.

Project page is here.

PS: i am a new user to this forum. I use Ubuntu linux and i am a member of the Ubuntu Community and forums.

truthfatal 02-29-2008 09:57 AM

This is technically advertising, and is fairly strongly discouraged here at LQ. try: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/adinfo.html for info about getting a proper ad here. Or better yet, add a link to your project in your signature block and become an active member of the community to get more exposure.

:)

H_TeXMeX_H 02-29-2008 09:58 AM

But, what if I don't like Ubuntu ? Could I still 'race for freedom' without racing for Ubuntu, without mentioning the fact that Ubuntu is including more and more proprietary software in their repos every day.

EDIT:
I'm sure whether this is advertising, I mean advertising would go something like 'Buy this new drug now, to make your ... bigger and better and faster and prettier and cheaper ...' which is also considered spam although spam tend to be more chaotic, like random advertising plus nonsense.

unSpawn 02-29-2008 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by H_TeXMeX_H (Post 3073959)
But, what if I don't like Ubuntu ? Could I still 'race for freedom' without racing for Ubuntu

No you can't. Just like they say you can't "learn Linux the Linux way" w/o using a certain distro.

mendozaro 02-29-2008 12:17 PM

Advertising?
 
The definition of advertising:
"The activity of attracting public attention to a product or business, as by paid announcements in the print, broadcast, or electronic media."

This is not the case in any way. Ubuntu is nr.1 linux distro for desktop - and also the distro i use. It is most likely that new, informed users that move to linux will use ubuntu. BUT this project is entitled USING LINUX FOR DESKTOP. So what ever distro you might be using is fine with us.

This project is supposed to gather as much info about running linux as a desktop os. It is opened to all members of Linux community. That is why i posted this here. Because all members of LINUX community should know about this. Maybe i was wrong... and the members of this community are not ready for new ideas and all my volunteer work was in vane.

Best regards.

pixellany 02-29-2008 12:39 PM

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and the members of this community are not ready for new ideas and all my volunteer work was in vane.
You perhaps meant "in vain"...

Simon Cowell (American Idol) is teaching us all to be direct and honest. My first reaction to what I am seeing here is that your site is anything but a new idea. If you look around, you will find all manner of websites offering some kind of help to people moving to Linux. When I saw yours there was nothing new and different.

Quote:

It is most likely that new, informed users that move to linux will use ubuntu.
I doubt that....For example, look for a lot of new users of gOS in the coming months.

I, for one, will look forward to you helping people here at LQ.

mendozaro 02-29-2008 01:12 PM

Hmm...
 
Now this is weird.

This kind of feedback makes me happy that i didn't add a comments section on our web site.

Maybe my idea is not new... but let me tell you something: a few months back when i started moving my home computers and business to linux, i found nothing but forums and bits and pieces of information on the internet. Also i have found a lot of web sites that cover this subject... but not in this manner. Most of them are maintained by single persons and have very few articles.

And about gOS... that is something from another category... and it has nothing to do with our discution. That OS has something REALLY commercial behind it.

pixellany 02-29-2008 01:24 PM

In re gOS: The point was only that everyone's not going to be using Ubuntu.

My impression is that you could make a big contribution by writing up a "success story" for LQ.

Speaking only for myself: Most of my Linux energy goes here at LQ. If there's any left over, I have a few things I want to put on my own (sadly neglected) site. This leaves NO time to jump in on any other projects.

mendozaro 02-29-2008 01:45 PM

Much better...
 
This is the kind of feedback i expected in the first place...

I will help this forum, and in the same time transfer all the knowledge to the website. Example: if someone has a problem and posts here for help means that there is need for information on that problem. My way of work: answer to the man's post, resolve his post and move back to my project and write a howto on that subject. So next time when someone will have that problem and search for it will find an answer (complete and easy to read).

Best regards.

jiml8 02-29-2008 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mendozaro (Post 3074079)
It is most likely that new, informed users that move to linux will use ubuntu.

Ummmm...no, I don't think so.

I deployed Ubuntu for myself on my laptop to see what all the hoopla was about and basically I don't like it that much. It tries to do too much for me, and tries to stop me from doing some things that I want to do. The way root is handled annoys the hell out of me.

And, I must say, I do consider myself to be an informed user.

So, of the systems I have deployed subsequent to that Ubuntu deployment, I have deployed one other Ubuntu for a clueless newbie. But most of the systems that I have deployed or guided deployment of which were for "informed users" are Fedora, Debian, or Mandriva.

truthfatal 02-29-2008 02:13 PM

I still think the original post is an advertisement. :P

That doesn't mean I've dismissed your project out of hand though, if I had I would never have replied in the first place.

So, after looking at your site, and having seen many of the similar projects that have been attempted in the past, here are a few thoughts.

Quote:

i have found a lot of web sites that cover this subject... but not in this manner. Most of them are maintained by single persons and have very few articles.
Many similar projects started up with the exact same intentions as yours. That should be a fairly good warning I think.

Regarding the Project page itself, some proof reading would be incredibly helpful. the grammar makes me think that you are not an native English speaker, which is not bad, but it hurts readability.

Also,
Quote:

if you consider you could help us and become a member of this project, please email me some proof of you being a community member and you skills on:
This is probably a bad Idea right at the start, if you want to ensure your own standards of quality it might be better to allow anyone to submit an article and moderate them before they actually get posted. You could add trusted moderators if the site grew.
The way it is now is somewhat off-putting. I see that sentence and think: "Who the hell is this to demand my credentials? If I want to share an article about something that I have knowledge of, I bloody well will."
Maybe you could take a look at http://tldp.org for some ideas. Their focus seems to be a lot broader than yours, but it seems to me that they have the closest resemblance to what you want to have, out of the options out there.

I still think you should put a link in your signature block.
I wish you nothing but success.

mendozaro 03-01-2008 02:47 AM

Quote:

Many similar projects started up with the exact same intentions as yours.
To continue your idea: this projects failed. Why?

Because they've gone this way:
Quote:

This is probably a bad Idea right at the start, if you want to ensure your own standards of quality it might be better to allow anyone to submit an article and moderate them before they actually get posted.
Now, be sure i have can moderate, remove, publish, un publish, lock, unlock any article written by a member on the web site. But i trust them! That is the key to all this. A community can do much more than just on individual. What if i don't have time to do this work? Should i just fail like most?

Conclusion: i let all members to add categories and content directly on to the web site. If i find a certain article out of my "standards" i can unpublish it or even delete it for good.

About projects focus... Initially this project was entitled "Web design in Ubunutu" than it changed in "Web design in Linux" than finally changed into "Using Linux for Desktop". I consider that this is as far as we can go... "Don't bite more than you can chew." or you will end up failing.

reddazz 03-01-2008 12:14 PM

I've moved this to the General forum. Usually such threads that promote an individuals site would be classed as advertising and immediately closed I will make an exception this time. In the future please contact the site administrator (jeremy[AT]linuxquestions.org) before posting.

reddazz 03-01-2008 12:17 PM

Your ideas seem noble (though as others mentioned not new), but why restrict yourself to Ubuntu? Ubuntu is popular on the desktop, but in many small businesses and big companies, the likes of Red Hat, SUSE and Debian are more popular.

Good luck with the project.

mendozaro 03-01-2008 04:25 PM

The project is not restricted to ubuntu...
 
My project is not restricted to ubuntu.

I am using ubuntu. That is all.

But the project applies to any linux os out there.


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