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Old 11-26-2019, 06:42 PM   #16
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Have you considered buying a second hand computer from a broker? Most commercial/financial/etc companies go through an upgrade process where they renew their desktops every three years or so. The "old" computers are then resold by brokers after they've been checked over and refurbished as necessary. So unless you're really into having a spangly new shiny shiny expensive job, a cheaper second user job with a higher spec might fill the bill. I'm using an HP Z400 quad core Xeon processor, 16Gb Ram and 2Tb disk system rather than a standard desktop system, ideal for 3D model rendering and printing over the usual surfing and Office work.

Just a thought...

Play Bonny!

Thanks Soadyheid. I have a refurbished computer myself and I love it, but I'm helping someone else buy this and it's gotta be new.
 
Old 11-26-2019, 06:43 PM   #17
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You should also checkout Dell outlet or HP outlet. I purchased one of the Dell outlet machines about 7-years ago (for about 1/2 the cost), and still using it; ofcourse battery is dead, but that's expected.
http://www.hp.com/sbso/buspurchase_refurbished.html
https://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/22/...=us&l=en&s=dfh
Went there, dc. Lots of good stuff there. Thanks.
 
Old 11-26-2019, 06:44 PM   #18
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Here's a new one I'm considering. Any thoughts? https://www.amazon.com/Dell-Inspiron...pc&sr=1-1&th=1
 
Old 11-26-2019, 07:06 PM   #19
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what do you mean by 'having RAM shared by video'?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shared_graphics_memory
 
Old 11-26-2019, 10:24 PM   #20
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Thanks
 
Old 11-26-2019, 10:32 PM   #21
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Thanks everybody for all the feedback. I'm going with the HP. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-desk...?skuId=6366134

PS. LQ is not letting me mark this as solved for some reason, but it is solved.

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Old 11-28-2019, 01:57 PM   #22
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Darn! Why not just build your own? You'll likely get better grade components for the same price and not have to scavenge Ebay in a few years for some proprietary cable.
 
Old 11-29-2019, 04:00 AM   #23
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Darn! Why not just build your own? You'll likely get better grade components for the same price and not have to scavenge Ebay in a few years for some proprietary cable.
^that+

i built my box myself, way better that other desktop pc's from pc-stores.
 
Old 11-30-2019, 06:47 PM   #24
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I'm looking for a Desktop PC for light use. (SFF is fine.) Just emailing and MS Word, that sort of thing. I've narrowed it down to two. (Although I am open to better suggestions.)

1) Dell https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop...v3470w10ps5063 $299 from Dell flyer
I saw some mention of $500 and another of $400 cost in this thread. I just looked on Fry's web site and I had to scroll through almost twp screens-worth of systems before I saw something above $500. Some come with Win10 if you really think you need that.

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Questions: 1) (From the Tech Specs & Customization tab) Is the tray able to read and write CDs and DVDs or is that extra?
Whoever you're considering buying from ought to be able to tell whether the CD/DVD drive has RW capability. Yes, it'll likely cost a bit more but if you need that you need that. You probably don't need the ability to write to M-DISC media or print things on the discs; that really runs up the cost. (BTW, both product blurbs mention "burning" so I'd say that a good sign. :^) )

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2) Does the computer have Wi-fi capability?
If it doesn't, WiFi cards are easily installable provided there are adapter slots available. (You'd need to ask about that.)

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3) Might MS give me a hard time adding MS Office Home and Student since this is a business computer?
This is where I'd be questioning my need for anything Windows-based. Their giving me a "hard time" was why I stopped using their products at home.

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2) HP https://www.bestbuy.com/site/hp-desk...?skuId=6366134 $379 on Black Friday at Best Buy

I was thinking (I'm no tech expert in this stuff) the HP might be worth the extra $79 but then I saw its processor speed was only 2.6 GHz. But then I thought maybe the SSD makes up for that.
Unless you're going to do molecular modeling on this system, I would imagine 2.6GHz would be sufficient. I'd budget for an extra internal HD (or two... make a RAID1 device) for your data. Provided they support that, that is.

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And the reviews for the Dell were kind of bad, whereas the reviews for the HP were pretty good, several stating the computer was fast.
I have a Dell laptop and I think it works just fine (for an older, 32-bit system). My beef with Dell over the years stemmed from their on-again/off-again Linux support. Send me a catalog with pictures of computers with monitors displaying lots of penguins and then never mention Linux anywhere inside? Grrr. :^D I'm sure their Windows support is just fine. (And I've had no problems getting that old laptop to work with Linux. At all.) The Dell appears to support only a single HD.

A former co-worker swore by HP's desktop systems. Well built systems. Or, at least, they used to be. The specs on the Best Buy site don't seem to say anything about additional HD bays should you want to add a drive or two. You'd have to check the HP site for that. (Perhaps tracking down the maintenance manual would help; that's where I always find that sort of information.)

HTH...

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PS. LQ is not letting me mark this as solved for some reason, but it is solved.
See "Thread tools" at the top of the thread (above your initial post). It should be there.

Enjoy your new box.

Cheers...
 
Old 11-30-2019, 08:56 PM   #26
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You cannot mark threads as Solved in the Non-Nix/General forum.
 
Old 12-06-2019, 02:52 PM   #27
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Darn! Why not just build your own? You'll likely get better grade components for the same price and not have to scavenge Ebay in a few years for some proprietary cable.
Maybe my next one.
 
Old 12-06-2019, 02:52 PM   #28
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^that+

i built my box myself, way better that other desktop pc's from pc-stores.
I'm sure that's true.
 
Old 12-06-2019, 02:55 PM   #29
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I saw some mention of $500 and another of $400 cost in this thread. I just looked on Fry's web site and I had to scroll through almost twp screens-worth of systems before I saw something above $500. Some come with Win10 if you really think you need that.


Whoever you're considering buying from ought to be able to tell whether the CD/DVD drive has RW capability. Yes, it'll likely cost a bit more but if you need that you need that. You probably don't need the ability to write to M-DISC media or print things on the discs; that really runs up the cost. (BTW, both product blurbs mention "burning" so I'd say that a good sign. :^) )



If it doesn't, WiFi cards are easily installable provided there are adapter slots available. (You'd need to ask about that.)



This is where I'd be questioning my need for anything Windows-based. Their giving me a "hard time" was why I stopped using their products at home.



Unless you're going to do molecular modeling on this system, I would imagine 2.6GHz would be sufficient. I'd budget for an extra internal HD (or two... make a RAID1 device) for your data. Provided they support that, that is.



I have a Dell laptop and I think it works just fine (for an older, 32-bit system). My beef with Dell over the years stemmed from their on-again/off-again Linux support. Send me a catalog with pictures of computers with monitors displaying lots of penguins and then never mention Linux anywhere inside? Grrr. :^D I'm sure their Windows support is just fine. (And I've had no problems getting that old laptop to work with Linux. At all.) The Dell appears to support only a single HD.

A former co-worker swore by HP's desktop systems. Well built systems. Or, at least, they used to be. The specs on the Best Buy site don't seem to say anything about additional HD bays should you want to add a drive or two. You'd have to check the HP site for that. (Perhaps tracking down the maintenance manual would help; that's where I always find that sort of information.)

HTH...
Thanks for all the great information. I'm going to check out Fry's, as I'm always shopping for a new computer. And I don't like buying from Dell because so much is an add-on. Plus if you get their flyers in the US mail, the prices are way lower in the flyers than you can get online. Just seems a little underhanded.
 
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Thanks. (That was baffling me.)
 
  


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