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Old 10-05-2019, 05:27 AM   #181
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The most efficient way, ecologically speaking, of using the land is old-fashioned mixed farming. You use animal manure to fertilise your crops and feed the animals on plant wastes. Take out the animals and you have to fertilise the plants with compost, which is far less effective. So either you grow less or you have to augment the compost with synthetic fertilisers, which are a non-renewable resource. It's a no-brainer.
That does not lend itself well to large scale corporate farming. On a more pointed note, it may not be the best answer in terms of water usage, which is rapidly becoming the most important factor.
 
Old 10-05-2019, 07:15 AM   #182
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That does not lend itself well to large scale corporate farming.
I am not sure that this is necessarily so, as Paris was surrounded by farms during most of the 19th century, most of which were vegetable farms in a system that could quite well merit the designation, although I know nothing about the “corporate” structures of those times.

British citizens are able to produce the same kind of historic fact : There was only compost and animal manure, notably horse droppings, coming directly from the city.

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On a more pointed note, it may not be the best answer in terms of water usage, which is rapidly becoming the most important factor.
Maybe it is a good idea to use remedies were a problem shows, rather than use patches each time that our daily routine is disturbed. If Coca Cola does not trouble us, than water shortages cannot.
 
Old 10-05-2019, 10:52 AM   #183
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That does not lend itself well to large scale corporate farming. On a more pointed note, it may not be the best answer in terms of water usage, which is rapidly becoming the most important factor.
Not under current farming conditions due to all the chemicals. But it is entirely possible. For example grow cover crops to suppress weeds during the growing season then graze it after harvest. This eliminates expensive seeds, herbicides, fertilizers, etc. And most importantly the soil is never bare. This helps drastically with water since grasslands, etc hold 70% more water than a dead farm field.
 
Old 10-05-2019, 05:47 PM   #184
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A great idea but it's not times 7.5* billion!
 
Old 10-08-2019, 12:41 AM   #185
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A great idea but it's not times 7.5* billion!
I am not sure if I understand this remark. Take mine and frown, if you must:

Only Biological Farming Would Produce (and thus for the first time, maybe) Enough Alimentation For The Entire World Population (humans, that is).

Other systems fail, have failed and continue to fail. Basta, Hugh and Ω.
 
Old 10-08-2019, 04:58 AM   #186
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Looks like according to the poll, the answer to the thread question is: a overwhelming "yes"...

Personally, I'd say "insane" might be a better word. I'd also say the answer to that would be: "yes".
 
Old 10-08-2019, 05:26 AM   #187
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Let's say you do the farming right, other people still won't but put that aside for now we feed the world. Again the world that is multiplying by 7.6 billion, multiplying! (you get an error sign on most calculators doing that) What about all the wildlife that we don't Farm, more zoos!
 
Old 10-08-2019, 05:28 AM   #188
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Luckily I won't have to live in a world with just rodents and weeds!

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Old 10-08-2019, 05:33 AM   #189
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Oh but we're so smart we have calculators that can handle those numbers 3.8 billion * 3.8 billion, 1.444e+19!

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Old 10-08-2019, 10:26 AM   #190
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Does any body know what era to point at that the world was sane. We are all insane because of personal contact. Insanity is contagious.

I have my own personal craziness. Now I can let the world know the details if I so wish.
Craziness used to be personal thing. Now it is the " in " thing.

The more outragous a personal action. The more people notice. More people = more incidents = more notice.


These things were wrote about in old sci fi books I would read.
Mass shooters in the future in one book was labled "muckers"
Series of books I read this in was David Wingrove sci fi series on how China rules the world.
 
Old 10-08-2019, 11:50 AM   #191
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Does any body know what era to point at that the world was sane.
I love this question. Since school, it had been asked many times and none of the discussions ever lead anywhere. But in the process, quite a few interesting points are raised like facts that I had forgotten, viewpoints that I have never tried and even places to go, books to read and people to meet.

Let me try... The Celts. Meaning the time (in Europe) when most of the western part of the continent was populated by people of more or less same origin and language ( more or less ).

I wrote it, you shred. But be verbose, please.

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Old 10-08-2019, 12:34 PM   #192
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Details?

Tribe, island, continent, does not equal the world.
We are more mobile than in the past with faster hardware.
Romans + lead in water = insane
Aztecs cut out hearts.
WW2 plus others
Slavery.
Gulags
Invasions
Religous bylaws to live by.
Greed.
What about me!

Etc.........

Humans have been insane fir quite a while. Survival sometimes calls for a bit of insanity.
Otherwise. One cannot have hope in a hopeless situation
 
Old 10-08-2019, 12:38 PM   #193
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Plus druids sacrificed humans in Celt society.

Some folks forget that.
 
Old 10-08-2019, 07:28 PM   #194
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"Crazy" is the same a "stupid," which is as we do... funny how fast technology is moving nowadays compared to humanity, make a clue; just not possible soon to be multiplying trillions!!! Name:  animated-smileys-children-03.gif
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Or, perhaps not 2/3 of us extinct but the lot?
 
  


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