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Old 01-19-2021, 03:29 AM   #1
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Has anyone experience with robot vacuum cleaners?


i've got some extra money and i would rather use it to get something permanent

so, if someone knows those vacuums and/or have one i would be interested on their opinions.
like what has best cleaning power and which has best/good obstacle avoidance.

thanks in advance.

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Old 01-19-2021, 03:48 AM   #2
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Not directly but I am in contact with several households with different models. Most seem to be fairly random in their meanderings around the floor, except for returning to their charging bays. So coverage is not necessarily where it is needed. None are quiet. They make a lot of noise and that can be terribly annoying or inconvenient even if the vaccuuming is at a pre-scheduled time, something always comes up and you'll need to have it shut down. All need frequent emptying. They choke on strings and threads and long hairs.

None of the people I know who have them seemed the least concerned about who owns the data that the machines collect nor about how much data is collected. I suppose the next step is for the vendors to mount microphones or cameras on them. Some integrate with smart microphones like those from Google or Amazon.

If you have pets, even if they are house trained, there may be the occasional accident. Cat turds roll in front of the machines, I am told by those with cats. Dog turds smoosh instead, I read.

Unless you are going to program your own, or mod an existing design, either of which I would enthusiastically encourage as a hobby, it is more efficient and probably less work to just run a manual vaccuum cleaner in a timely manner. Come to think of it, I will try to remember to ask about how much supervision time is required.
 
Old 01-19-2021, 05:31 AM   #3
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Hi @////// - out of topic - I found your signature very interesting and fun - just my interest in nc grown immensely - I tried to understand your signature - it is kind of network music server, is it? I mean music can be played in web browser which supports media. Only thing not clear for me is address name in nc invocation. Also does it required to put *.mp3 files under /root directory? It is rather highly unusual.
 
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My older Roomba starts when programmed so wakes me in case power on my phone and alarm fail. I run it every day and it needs to be emptied plus have the filter cleaned every third day or so. Charges itself before running out of juice and sleeps for next wake.

The newer ones tho plug in and evacuate to a bigger chamber so won't have to empty as often... I've always said since my apartment is kind of big, I wanted a second one so they could battlebot! Then maybe only have to empty the older every six days?

E.g: https://store.irobot.com/default/roomba-vacuuming-robot-vacuum-irobot-roomba-i7-plus/i755020.html?&_campaign=&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIg5Pm5uKn7gIVL-bjBx25eQFeEAYYAiABEgJrgvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

I will say it supposedly depends on your floor plan and definitely furniture. Got rid of an old recliner it kept wedging under, (even tho shuts off then, I) worried about fires. The other stuff in my rooms it goes under or along and chairs (like kitchen or desk) I randomly move around for it to get there.

As for power, features and results: you get what you pay, study and meticulously suck-up reviews for.

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Old 01-19-2021, 05:56 AM   #5
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Hi @////// - out of topic - I found your signature very interesting and fun - just my interest in nc grown immensely - I tried to understand your signature - it is kind of network music server, is it? I mean music can be played in web browser which supports media. Only thing not clear for me is address name in nc invocation. Also does it required to put *.mp3 files under /root directory? It is rather highly unusual.
hello.

yeah, its mp3 server in bash which use nc.
about using /root/user/music , i just used a random path, you have to edit it to whatever you wanna use

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They make a lot of noise and that can be terribly annoying or inconvenient even if the vaccuuming is at a pre-scheduled time, something always comes up and you'll need to have it shut down. All need frequent emptying. They choke on strings and threads and long hairs.
well i do have music on 24/7, maybe it wouldn't be so bad.
i would be happy to see my cat hunting it, he needs something to do when i am not at home.

and i dont have carpets on my flat. i find'em annoying to clean
my cat hasn't made an accident when he goes to poop, (and he hasn't peed on sofas or anything bad.)

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None of the people I know who have them seemed the least concerned about who owns the data that the machines collect nor about how much data is collected. I suppose the next step is for the vendors to mount microphones or cameras on them. Some integrate with smart microphones like those from Google or Amazon.
i dont want internet connected vacuum cleaner, i prefer it to be offline and without cameras and mics obviously.
 
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Yeah, but such robot vacuum cleaner is round. I was hesitating what about room corners? Doesn't seem cleaner can reach such place. So room is clean except corners.
 
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Yeah, but such robot vacuum cleaner is round. I was hesitating what about room corners? Doesn't seem cleaner can reach such place. So room is clean except corners.
well if i have to do some cleaning i use my mop and take care of room corners
i have just one room and kitchen to take care of. no biggie.
 
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The docking stations take up some space on their own, but especially while the units are parked. So that should be accounted for. If you have higher clearance under the bed or sofa, then it might be possible to keep the machine there.
 
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If you have higher clearance under the bed or sofa, then it might be possible to keep the machine there.
my sofa has clearance of 4-5 inches roughly.
i think it is enuf for roomba or whatever.
 
Old 01-19-2021, 08:04 AM   #10
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We found one on a shopping site for less than what you'd get the roomba models for.

It knows nothing about our WiFi, home address, or any personal information. It would know the time of day, but we never set that.

The only option to program it is to run once per day, every day, which would mean we'd choose to set the time. We didn't want that, so we run it per our choice. It has a remote which has a DVD/VCR like button, play/pause. So when we want it to run, we hit that button and it goes.

When it's done or when it's low on battery, it goes back to the charger.

For prohibited areas like a pet's water bowl or down stairs, you can put a magnetic strip, where they supplied a roll of it and double sided sticky, to cause it to sense to not go there. We didn't stick it to our hardwood floor, instead the bowl sits on a small carpet, so we placed the strips under the edge of the carpet and it works fine. We don't bring it upstairs, we have the regular vacuum up there.

It works for what it is, a vacuum and we do not believe it's going to clean as well as a person, including corners. But we can run it every few days just by pressing the button and then forgetting about it. Given the size of our house, I'm sure it misses areas, but it does not seem to have a pattern and thus I feel it finds different areas each time it cleans.

There are features one can use with it, we don't, but just a general sweep of both floor and carpets is good.

I think it depends how dirty or disorganized you are. I don't think we're that messy, but that's always a matter of perspective.
 
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thanks rtmistler.

that sounds good to me.
what model/maker it is?
 
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thanks rtmistler.

that sounds good to me.
what model/maker it is?
You mean I have to get up and look at it?!?

It's a Kyvol Cybovac E20 Robot Vacuum Cleaner

It does have WiFi and claims to work with Alexa with an accompanying app for it, if one wants.

As you can tell, we just figured out the minimum controls.

Using the remote, you can program it to do the once per day at a given time, without needing to give it any WiFi or details about yourself.

Or you can do what we do, and run it as needed, saying "Go Go Gadget Vacuum Cleaner!" optionally for fun, when you pick up the remote and hit Play. (That novelty wears off after a while, I assure you.)

The remote's not needed either, you can hit buttons on the top of the vacuum, or just pick it up if you want to stick it back on the charging base.

It has not gotten stuck anywhere, in fact it was under the coffee table for some time once and just as I decided it was stuck, it came out on it's own. It claims to increase suction on carpets and reduce it on non-carpet flooring. The catch basin is full with the same stuff our other vacuum used to get, so we feel it works.

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Anybody notice that appliances .... stink! These days?!?

When I grew up our family had one vacuum cleaner, one lawnmower, one washing machine, etc. And I do know this because (joking) my parents were evil and made us kids do chores! The horror! Anyways, since I've been on my own, all these things last very minimum amounts of time, so that I've bought things like a SpeedQueen washer/dryer which finally has lasted, but I can't count the number of microwaves, fridges, dishwashers, vacuum cleaners we've bought over the years. Clearly the amount of vacuum cleaners wins that race, and the upright one we do have is a Dyson, which does work great, but my wife wanted to try the robot one out. (I'm going to ballpark the number of vacuums at 10 over 30 years!)
 
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You mean I have to get up and look at it?!?

It's a Kyvol Cybovac E20 Robot Vacuum Cleaner


sorry man.

i think i'll check out local net site which has 175 - 1,2k robot vacuum cleaners for sell.
i have had bad experiences with chinese products, so i think ill try roomba, which costs 300.
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iRobot Roomba e5152
it has score of 86% from users.

and other one is :

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iRobot Roomba 605
which costs 195
but it has 5x less vacuuming power than iRobot Roomba e5152.
not sure how they came up with that number.
 
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and yeah, you can use roomba without wifi :
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Can I use my iRobot Roomba without WIFI?
Roomba robot vacuums do not need Wi-Fi to clean your Home. You can simply Push CLEAN on the robot and the robot will get to work. It is important to remember the robot must start on the Home Base for it to return home.
and no data sold to 3rd parties.
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Does Roomba sell your data?
A: iRobot will not sell customer data. We hope the information gathered by Roomba will provide value to devices in the smart home, and nothing will be shared without the knowledge or control of our customers.
 
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My father purchased a 675 and it generally works ok but without any virtual wall barriers it tends to get stuck in a room and sometimes fails to find its way back to its base. The dust collector bin is not real big so I originally suggested a model where it empties itself but he was reluctant.

The higher end Roomba models I think do better, also check out the Sharks and BoostIQ which also seem to be decent.

However, the higher end models are also WiFi / Alexa inetgrated.

I agree that appliances are not built like they were in the good old days...
 
  


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