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Old 01-29-2019, 06:00 AM   #256
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Originally Posted by jsbjsb001 View Post
I don't mean to be rude or anything to you enorbet, but since we are not going to focus on not just what we currently know about science, and what degrees, if any, Lazar does or doesn't hold, then there is really no point in me continuing this discussion with you.

I'm sorry, but my mind remains open, what your thoughts about it are, are entirely up to yourself and I respect that, but to my way of thinking it's still possible there is at least some truth to what he was saying. Particularly when once again others that have worked there (at both Area 51, as well as the Los Alamos Meson Physics Facility) support the idea of him working there, and what he said about alien spacecraft being at Area 51/S4, then your post does not explain that.

But clearly in your mind the guy is a lair full stop, so there is no convincing you regardless of what I say, therefore there's no point in even trying to...
First off let me be clear that I don't consider you or your responses in any way rude. You have in no way attacked me personally and in fact behaved as a gentleman and that is to be commended, not to be confused in any way with offense. As I mentioned I place far more weight on What Lazar has stated than Who said it, and that is where I have the greatest disconnect. He doesn't even grasp that Gravity is not Electromagnetic.

In response to your concern over the the "Who", of the validity of his assertion that he worked at Los Alamos (there is none I can find for Area 51) let me refer you to one of his "colleagues", a Ufologist who has a verified education and background, Stanton Friedman.

I searched to try to find a video involving Dr. Friedman to get a recent take on what he has been saying in public and writing in his books for almost 25 years regarding Bob Lazar and I'll link the one I could find but be warned it's a bit painful to watch largely because Jeremy Corbin so obviously "has a dog in this race" and his grasp of real Science is laughable. He thinks that having built a jet powered bike in 2010 is "amazing" and qualifies him as a scientist. I find this actually comical since I was in High School from 1961-1964 when the Artfon brothers were showcasing jet powered dragsters that held land speed records and they were just backwoods diesel mechanics.

FWIW anyway that symposium is here

For a less painful synopsis here's Stanton Friedman via Wikipedia

Originally Posted by Wikipedia-Bob Lazar

Education and qualifications

Lazar states that he holds degrees from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) and the California Institute of Technology (Caltech). Investigations into his background could not find any records of Lazar ever having attended either institution.[9]

Stanton Friedman, a prominent ufologist, was able to verify that Lazar took electronics courses in the late 1970s at Pierce Junior College in Los Angeles, at the same time as he was supposedly attending MIT in Massachusetts. He further determined that Lazar had graduated from high school in the bottom third of his class, and that the only science course he took was chemistry.[14] He believes that this would almost certainly have excluded Lazar from MIT, as MIT usually only takes from the top percentiles, and only those who have taken many science courses.[7] Friedman believes that Lazar lied about attending MIT and Caltech. No professors remembered Lazar, he was not in any yearbooks, nor were there records of him attending, and he could not remember the year he obtained his masters. He was also not a member of any professional bodies. MIT has confirmed that there is no way to expunge someone from their records.[14]

Lazar's occupation was listed as self-employed film processor on bankruptcy documents.[7]

Los Alamos
Lazar's name does appear in a Los Alamos National Lab telephone directory; however, this lists both employees and contractors, and Stanton Friedman states that Lazar actually worked as a technician for Kirk Meyer, an outside contractor.
If you didn't also watch the video, please note that Los Alamos Meson Facility is not Classified and Bob Lazar is listed as a sub-contractor there NOT a scientist working in the Lab. It is probably worthwhile mentioning that Bob Lazar started his business and named it United Nuclear Scientific Supplies LLC and that anyone can name their business anything as long as no other business exists with the same name. Bob's little supply house is not to be confused with the original United Nuclear Corporation formed in the 1950s initially with 1400 employees and decommissioned over three years finalizing in 1993.

I'm open to new information, but it's going to have to be spectacularly solid to overcome what we already know about this guy. There can simply be NO DOUBT whatsoever Lazar never attended Cal Tech or MIT. Neither of them will accept applicants with one year of high school Chemistry as their only Science courses and who finish in the lower third of their class. I know this from outside sources but also because I applied to MIT in 1964 and despite graduating in the upper 2% of my class and having taken 2 years of Chemistry, 3 years of Advanced Mathematics, and 2 years of Physics I was turned down mostly because I had not gotten Calculus in high school.

In short Bob Lazar fails both Who and What miserably.

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