Here is a puzzle


Taken in the 1930's. Looks nothing like a Indian/Meso-American and was located in Guatemala. Dated by one dude at 5000BC (with a grain of salt by me). And no. It don't look like this head or this head

Comparison MesoAmerican figure >>>>I use it as a Guydog Linux Wallpaper


It was Important enough for the US govt. to go down and steal the durn thing and hide it.

I figure humans can provide the labour for some constructions projects.

http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3165/3...4fc0f5e5_o.jpg

But copper, bronze tools, timber,and strong backs (edit: and elephants) and ropes. Cmon now.

I who build things knows it is much easier to stack up much smaller blocks to get the same effect.
I have searched for any info on that 1930's picture but guess what. Dead ends mostly. Which
I have learned to distrust when on a search. Heck. The Aztecs let Cortes land just because a
white dude was in their god scriptures and prophecies.

History is full of gaps and conjecture and when something of worth is found. Sometimes it just disappears,
through govt. intervention.

Rokytnji think about this for a minute. You have just posted numerous pictures from blogs etc but only the pictures. If you want a discussion about it please post a link to the relevant posts so we can see what is posted.

With regards to the head in the jungle the picture has some curious "shadows" to it. The head itself has shadow on it from the sun shining from a certain direction yet the car doesn't!

I would but dead ends are all I get for

http://www.thewrap.com/movies/column...-america-32168

I feel like most forum members here work for project blue book.

http://www.defense.gov/faq/pis/16.html

Especially with aka photoshop references like this

So beating a dead horse is not my style. You guys do what you do. I'll keep doing what I do.
I can't convince you. You can't convince me.

Besides playing Devils Advocate. What is you lifestyle philisophy?
Mine I got from a WW2 concentration camp survivor.

Dream like you will live forever.
Live like you will die today.

Hmmmm. Mayan Film maker with no funding vs the Defence Dept of the United States.
I wonder how that turned out.
I also don't believe that a single shooter took out Martin Luther King either.

Happy Trails, Rok

I'll swing the bat one more time as I at least found this.

http://www.thewrap.com/movies/column...xclusive-38921

No wonder dead ends everywhere. Like I think. If something of value turns up. Something happens to disrupt
that.

Cool story but those are not facts but theories. Sure humans could do it but noone so far except Coral Castle builder has clearly shown publicly with real valid examples what is behind all that in details and even then it is still secret. Why? Because it has value! Worth hiding! But of course for someone who doesn't even bother reading and introducing to materials provided it is unavoidable to make clueless reply..
Precisely!

I am not sure since when historical documents were degraded from facts to theories. Also, which facts do you have to present that backup your theories?

Of course it is worth hiding. They make money with it. From the very website you linked to (which by the way is advertising a commercial museum, so of course they try to make it mysterious):I would consider the two reasons in bold much more likely than the third one, but of course they added the third, so that they get more visitors. Every adult who falls for that brings them 12-15$. There is no evidence at all that some ancient hidden knowledge or alien tools were used. Here you see theories, not facts. And money making:

Meh. It started raining so I am back at the Desktop inside the shop.

This thread is kinda like a catch 22 thing.

One person points to links and of course they are flaky because any valid stuff has been covered up or stolen.
So to be on the unpopular side is tough, though maybe plausible, and the odds favoring that in the universe. Life may be
more of a constant than one gives credit for.

If they visited Earth. Maybe? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dmWp590TUAE

Some countries think they did, enough to spend the money. http://exonews.org/report-launch-per...fo-department/

Oh, in case no one knows by what I mean by saying catch 22 http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Catch-22

So basically a no win win for any outlook IMO.

I am grinning because of all the people to take up the position in this argument. I am the least qualified to do so.

I am uneducated, a desert creature, no special training other than avionics on helicopters and bar fighting techniques
taught to me by outlaw bikers. I live in redneck country and baptist churches dot the landscape.

So what in the hell am I doing here you ask?
Well. I have always struggled to be what I am not. What I am is A Neanderthal Built, Knuckle dragging, Linux using Biker.
I'd rather be a enlightened human being who can cope with any changes that come my way.

Being closed minded is not my style, show me evidence and I will look at it with a discerning eye. I will then ask relevant questions to see if the evidence stacks up.

Are you the survivor? If you are you have my most humble respect. If you are genuinely interested PM me I wont be responsible for this thread going off-topic like mine was taken off-topic.

Historical documents are stories and the only facts are ideas based on ignorance. I should have known better than to post in such a thread.

I'm just pointing out fact that we are not monkeys..maybe reason why humans are not perfect is because we are flaky made by someone else like Aliens or God is blocking our potential on purpose to have evolution and experience? Think about that..human history doesn't fit what we have been teached in schools..any sane person will have questions. Try experimenting at home and acting like one often - you will realize something is wrong in this picture and doesn't add up to truth and reality.

Neither are we amoeba or starfish. We do, however, share a common ancestry with "monkeys". Get over it.

Not likely.

I can't speak for you, but what I was taught in our educational system does, for the most part.

They might, but probably not the ones you imagine. Crazy people have questions, too, but often come up with equally crazy answers.

Yeah, it's what I've come to expect here.

Never try to teach a pig to sing. You can't do it, and it irritates the pig.
(Attributed to R. Heinlein, Will Rogers, Mark Twain, and others)

Correct, we belong to the apes.

I would go with Occam's Razer here: maybe humans aren't perfect because we evolved and were not created. No god or aliens needed for that theory, which makes it preferable.

How do you know? Besides that, history is a soft science and can only rely on what previous generations left for us to interpret. There will always be spots of history that we don't know, especially those spots before the invention of written language. That does not at all mean that some hidden entity tries to obfuscate history.
Sure. And any sane person should not fall back to: I don't know, therefore hidden agenda.
That is why we have science, to get nearer to the point where it all adds up. Again, this won't work with "I don't know, therefore some hidden entity", because that approach will stop you from getting to the base and will lead you away from the way of knowledge.
Look at the middle age medicine, people thought that diseases were caused by demons or are a punishment from god. Stopping with that we would never have gotten the benefits of modern medicine.

Emphasis added by me.

Your posts get more bizarre each time you post. You have picked at spelling, insinuated people are uneducated, go on about historical texts not being real evidence but insist your (bizarre) beliefs are truth, and many more things I could list but am sure you as the overly educated (or is it teached ) person you are can find.

Modifying a line from LOTR

"This isn't a discussion (mine), it's a circus (tomb)"

Well, it's Holloween in my small Texas Town. UFO crash sites popping up all over town lately.

http://www.cloudcroft.com/photos/witch.jpg

I am gonna get me some candy, and forgetta about it.

One more thing about this underlined example. You are using something random, rare and unapprooved by everyone. According to your logic i can also give you this link about how some german scientists say they have proof of God(applies for Aliens aswell). And if they really would proove anything with that little experiment every kid would know how that ancient stuff were made by now but they don't..
This includes science religions.

You are correct of course. That "random experiment" only shows that people could easily have built those structures. Just like the written records from ancient Egypt "claimed" they were built. So it proves nothing and is obviosly nonsense. Those structure must have been built by aliens! The dates when all the pyramids were built and for which kings is also recorded in the historical record. But those historical records are all wrong. The Egyptians who wrote those accounts were fantasising under the influent of hallucinogenic compounds. After they saw aliens build a pyramid, they falsely recorded the structure being ordered by the previous king and created fake work records to support the lie.