Google tightens control of net

Sefyir · 08-27-2016, 10:37 PM

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This has nothing to do with google search engines.

The thread is asking you what you feel about the fact that you have no choice but
to allow google to monitor what you do on web sites (The one you are now looking at for example)
and to have input and output rights to the device (laptop/pc/tablet or whatever) you are
using to do it.

IE if you block all google connections in your firewall (input and/or output) the web effectively stops working.

Try it.
Put the google IP addresses in your firewall (input and output) then try and read this forum or use other web sites.

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Originally Posted by maples

Did you try something like this? Because I don't understand what you're saying. Sure, if I use JQuery and use Google's hosting of it then your browser won't be able to access the JQuery file from Google's servers and thus the page won't load properly on your computer. However, if I have a copy of JQuery on my server and point all of my pages to it, then there is no need for any computer visiting my website to ever contact Google.

I have a personal website running off a server in my basement. I can physically disconnect our modem from the Internet, and http://192.168.0.123 will still load the content on my server, in whatever browser I happen to be using.

A lot of computers use Google DNS (8.8.8.8 or 8.8.4.4)
Most likely, this user has it as well. If you block your DNS, the web will effectively "stop working" since when you enter a url (linuxquestions.org) it will try to get the ip.. and nothing will respond - because you blocked it!

As I don't use Google DNS, blocking their ip's did nothing unexpected to me.

Switch to another DNS server and the web will "start working" if you decide to completely block google.
So no, google does not control the web.

RadicalDreamer · 08-27-2016, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HMW

Meh... not much. I stopped using Google's search engine a long time ago. See: https://duckduckgo.com/

I've been using duckduckgo since Snowden's revelations. Its real good!

ugjka · 08-28-2016, 03:36 AM

There is nothing more annoying than a popup that tells you to join the website's facebook page or newsletter

ondoho · 08-28-2016, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by fred2014

if you block all google connections in your firewall (input and/or output) the web effectively stops working.

i think "effectively stop working" means "my favorite sites degrade to an unusable state".
i concur that it would take a lot of self-discipline in web browsing to really stop using google completely.
but that doesn't mean the "web stops working".
also, the internet is much more than what you see in your browser.

are you still able to update your $distro after blocking ALL google servers/ips/domains?

edit:
yes, don't rely on google's nameservers. there's simply no reason.

sundialsvcs · 08-28-2016, 09:50 AM

It is certainly true that if a web site presents content through a JavaScript-controlled popup, a search engine probably cannot index it.

However, I suspect that this might be why sites do that!

Jeebizz · 09-01-2016, 11:41 PM

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...8/#post5599615 since Youtube is owned by Google I feel it is relevant.