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Old 12-15-2018, 11:41 PM   #31
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Somehow, that study did not greatly affect the behavior, philosophy, or corporate culture of those companies that had embraced the philosophy of the "Chicago school". [ Those I often think as alumni of the Capone school of economics ;-) ]
"Capone school of economics." Quite en pointe.

It is an economic theory of rape and rapine which denies the existence of the common good. Lane Crothers, professor of politics, details the scam.

(Ask me nicely, I'll tell you what I really think.)

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Old 12-16-2018, 06:39 AM   #32
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The surprise was that the majority of shareholders that preferred their companies act more ethically even at the expense of profit was even higher.
They probably didn't ask Carl Icahn.
In all seriousness thought I would imagine they asked individual shareholders and didn't weight it depending upon the amount of shares owned. That and, perhaps, they didn't ask the share brokers ho, ultimately, sell these things to "the man in the street".
Also, while "the man in the street" may say they put the well-being of others over money just look at the reaction to increased taxes anywhere for the truth of that statement (OK, yes, some of us oppose taxes because they're paying a corrupt government, but you see my point).
 
Old 12-16-2018, 11:52 AM   #33
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Errrrr. Google helped me find this place. So it was not a total wash.
Being a Texan.
Having been to China. I can't really comment on the rest of this thread.

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Old 12-17-2018, 02:37 AM   #34
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Being a Texan.
Having been to China.
well, don't stop there.
go on?!
 
Old 12-17-2018, 09:49 AM   #35
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well, don't stop there.
go on?!
It is the internet. So I won't go into a lot of details. Non disclosure agreements and all that with Hasbro.

I find the above article ironic by the way. Seeing I moved them there to avoid fair wages and safety practices.
Real evil? I've seen it.

Like walking barefoot on stripping room floors. Because rubber boots cost money.

Besides. This dude was there during the years when I was there also.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl9nZkvQmxo

Better learn Mandarin eventually. Here is the book series I brought with me to China to help me sleep.
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/...Middle_Kingdom
 
Old 12-18-2018, 02:26 AM   #36
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^ not sure where you're going with this; are you suggesting that nowadays people don't see anymore how bad things are in china?
i certainly do.
and i think the topic of this thread proves that others also do.
but for google, business is business.

the most evil thing i saw from china was a documentary about street food and food industry.
it made me never ever want to eat anything made in china again.

and general reports about pollution.
and another documentary about the capital of the district where they make the smartphones. like, all of them.
 
Old 12-18-2018, 04:54 AM   #37
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Reminds me of this: https://www.ft.com/content/7cb56786-...1-794ce08b24dc

Foxconn have been at this for well over a decade in "Communist China"... There is a typical whitewash in response to bad PR (probably at the behest of Apple Inc), but then it's "business as usual" and back to child labour, unspeakably long hours and sweatshops.
 
Old 12-18-2018, 06:34 AM   #38
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Wouldn't most workplaces in China (particularly the factories there) be what we would refer to as "sweatshops" ? I wouldn't be surprised if that isn't far from the truth...
 
Old 12-18-2018, 06:54 AM   #39
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Why would someone want to ring you when you're walking around‽

Google doesn't seem to be judging an entire country or stereotyping many people like most do...

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Old 12-18-2018, 06:58 AM   #40
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Google doesn't seem to be judging an entire country or stereotyping many people like most to do...
China doesn't have the same labour standards and protections for workers that the US, and the rest of the western world does. And yes, they are not the only country in that camp either...

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Old 12-18-2018, 07:41 AM   #41
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I suppose Foxconn are more visible, particularly due to who and what they supply. But they also manufactured the Kindle and Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo games consoles among many other things.

Apple get singled out simply because they are selling "fashion" hardware in fancy stores for exorbitant prices - i.e. massive margins. Makes better news and the perceived impact is greater, etc ("your phone was made in a sweatshop by kids", etc).

And China are in the spotlight, because they are Asia's largest economy, supposedly "communist", yet with one of the largest and most defined rich/poor divides in the developed world (along with the likes of US and Russia).

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Old 12-18-2018, 07:47 AM   #42
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And China are in the spotlight, because they are Asia's largest economy, supposedly "communist", yet with one of the largest and most defined rich/poor divides in the world.
It's some weird mix of capitalism and communism... I guess the best of both worlds.

It's certainly a funny old world, isn't it?
 
Old 12-18-2018, 09:41 AM   #43
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Evil Google killed Edge:
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18697824
 
Old 12-18-2018, 10:18 AM   #44
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"Statistics" did show the chrome has a something like 60% "market share", with the other four big players at around 10% or less each. All others was at around a combined 4 - 5% as I recall and a big proportion of that is going to be chromium/blink based. The other layout engines are minuscule (probably much less than 1%).

With 60% of the market share and with rivals being too small to be any real threat, they're in the strong position MSIE was in back in the days of "the three Es".
 
Old 12-18-2018, 10:44 AM   #45
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I guess it depends on whose statistics you look at. This outfit says google/chrome has almost 80% of the market,

https://www.w3schools.com/browsers/default.asp

Firefox comes in a distance second place with 10% and the rest less than 5% each.
 
  


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