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hazel 12-10-2020 12:34 PM

Good news! The Zuckerborg's in trouble with the law in the United States
 
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=facebook+s...tb=v1-1&ia=web

Let's hope they break up the evil empire.

teckk 12-10-2020 01:04 PM

Hazel, I don't have scripts on in my browser. That gave me a blank page.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=facebook+s...tb=v1-1&ia=web

This will fix that, noscript Duck.
https://duckduckgo.com/lite/?q=faceb...tb=v1-1&ia=web

ondoho 12-10-2020 02:36 PM

I heard it on the news today.
Basically telling them they're too close to a monopoly, with Instagram and WhatsApp and all.
First the EU, now "the states" - hooray! A first step towards normalcy.

rkelsen 12-10-2020 03:37 PM

Good news! The Zuckerborg's in trouble with the law in the United States
 
These things get so big because people keep using them. People need to stop.

Personally, I've never seen the attraction to FB... still don't have an account, and have had zero desire to set one up since I heard that Zuck once called the users of his product "suckers."

The second reason is that I saw a documentary about 15 years ago which compared FB to the databases used by the Nazis, and examined some of the possibilities for the use of the data that everyone seems very keen to give away.

boughtonp 12-10-2020 06:17 PM


 
There seems to be a lawsuit by the New York Attorney General and a separate lawsuit by the Federal Trade Commission:
https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2020/attorney-general-james-leads-multistate-lawsuit-seeking-end-facebooks-illegal
https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2020/12/ftc-sues-facebook-illegal-monopolization

As far as I can tell they're both saying the same thing, but the first one explicitly states:
Quote:

Separately, but in coordination with the coalition led by Attorney General James, the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) also today filed a complaint against Facebook in the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia.
Is this just some oddity of US federal vs national law?


Also, why the lawsuits now? Facebook bought Instagram in 2012, and it was approved by the FTC back then, so whilst it's good news it is also confusing.


boughtonp 12-10-2020 06:18 PM


 
Oh, and there's another lawsuit in Germany...
German antitrust regulator probes linking of Oculus with Facebook network
Quote:

“In the future, the use of the new Oculus glasses requires the user to also have a Facebook account. Linking virtual reality products and the group’s social network in this way could constitute a prohibited abuse of dominance by Facebook,” federal cartel office President Andreas Mundt said in a statement on Thursday.

ondoho 12-11-2020 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rkelsen (Post 6194089)
These things get so big because people keep using them. People need to stop.

You're not wrong of course, but that's not all.
It's not the users' fault that Facebook bought up Instagram and Whatsapp.
Antitrust laws exist in almost all countries, for a long time and for a good reason: every now and then it happens that a company manages to get into that position (and how they did that is a matter for another heated discussion) and needs to be broken up to avoid ... well, all sorts of scenarios highly undesired for both society and economy.

enorbet 12-11-2020 12:00 PM

The proliferation of Facebook demonstrates a valid need for people to stay in touch, especially with extended family. What is real is that as it is, that is not the focus of Facebook... it's just the bait. I do understand the attraction and I'd gladly pay some subscription fee to a service that was actually focused on so-called Social Media instead of data mining.. People complain about the impact of bitcoin mining by individuals but try to factor in some corporations like FB and Google that have server farms dedicated to data mining. I think you will find the proportions amazing, possibly disturbing. That's not to say there isn't some value in data mining, in learning how the world really works, but mostly it's just about advertising and needs to be diversified.

It will take some time for governments, which are mostly populated by old and fairly conservative (non geeky) men,to catch up to modern technology. Currently the upset is as great and misunderstood as much as someone inventing the 50 Cal machine gun circa 1300 AD. The world would be a VERY different place.

ondoho 12-11-2020 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enorbet (Post 6194395)
It will take some time for governments, which are mostly populated by old and fairly conservative (non geeky) men,to catch up to modern technology. Currently the upset is as great and misunderstood as much as someone inventing the 50 Cal machine gun circa 1300 AD.

Speak for your own government.
And what's with the gun comparison? Americans... :rolleyes:

frankbell 12-11-2020 09:55 PM

I agree that it is good news. And it is certainly well-deserved.

Beyond that, I'm wait and see.

milhan 12-11-2020 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hazel (Post 6193991)
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=facebook+s...tb=v1-1&ia=web

Let's hope they break up the evil empire.

I don't have any reason to trust the news media..

frankbell 12-11-2020 11:18 PM

Quote:

I don't have any reason to trust the news media..
You have even less reason to trust anything you read on "social" media.

So I reckon you are left awash in a sea of unbelief and untrustworthiness.

Furrfu.

hazel 12-12-2020 05:11 AM

They're in trouble in Australia too. There's a government bill to make them pay for all the news they steal from the regular press. In response FB are threatening to pull the plug on their Australian users. Funny how these things seem to be happening all at once. I mean, why now?

ondoho 12-12-2020 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hazel (Post 6194635)
Funny how these things seem to be happening all at once.

I disagree. I think this has been building up for a long while. Cambridge Analytica, EU legislation (GDPR) etc. ... and now, finally, the USA.

Currently I hear that Facebook is suing the EU for fining them... :lol:

GPGAgent 12-12-2020 01:22 PM

I don't care, I don't use FB, Instagram, Whatsapp, Messenger - I'm guessing all the responders to this thread do! Prove me wrong folks.


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