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Old 08-14-2018, 01:08 PM   #1
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Getting pictures off a Samsung Factor


I have a Samsung Factor, an old 3G flip-phone. I have it solely to make phone calls, something I do every few months.

I want to take pictures but I don't want to pay to send them. It has a USB port but I don't have a micro-USB plug adaptor. It supports Bluetooth but I've never gotten Bluetooth to work with my other Bluetooth devices.

Before I spend too much time on this, if I connect via USB will I be able to download photos? Or is it just a charger?

If I get Bluetooth to work, will I be able to download photos via Bluetooth?

Experiences others have had with similar phones are welcome. Slanging me for my ignorance isn't.
 
Old 08-14-2018, 01:16 PM   #2
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if I connect via USB will I be able to download photos?
probably yes.

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If I get Bluetooth to work, will I be able to download photos via Bluetooth?
probably yes.
 
Old 08-14-2018, 01:30 PM   #3
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Long winded way to say, "What have you tried? What have you searched on about this topic?"

Plug the thing into a computer and see if it detects it and how it detects it to be.

Also looking at the user manual for that phone may tell you something.

Long ago with a former flip phone, I checked if texting pictures cost me anything, I have Verizon, and it did not. I forget how I checked, i.e. I think my plan treated it as multimedia SMS and since SMS was either some number of allowances or unlimited, it was not an issue. I remember doing the action and then logging into my account to check my data usage, if any.

One of my former flip phones had a uSD card slot and I could transfer pictures on to or off of the phone/uSD card.

I actually used to "text" to my email. Thus sending the pictures to my email account.

In the end, I still have tons of those photos because they grabbed them off and placed them on my first Smaht phone (Sorry, Boston accent) and I have to say that ... they are lousy in comparison to the pictures I take or have taken with all of the more capable phones. Similarly, once you get them to a PC, they'll be like 480x240 or 640x480 at best, which used to be pretty good, but zoom in is a non-existent thing. However, perhaps that phone takes higher resolution photos. Again, that would be a specs, or user manual question.

And same applies to Bluetooth as USB. Instead of plug it in, turn BT on and scan on your computer for BT devices appearing.

I can say that Linux is superior to Windows insofar as "detecting", and then it's a toss up between OSes which one provides more and better utilities to browse or talk to the phone.

My funny story is that we were testing the distance of an outside WIFI device we were developing and went to a large field to check it out. So we were on the phone, my boss walking away, and finally he was lost in signal, about 1000' away. He told me to take a picture, which I did with my flip phone. When we got back and grabbed the picture, he was smaller than a pixel, so we could not see him at all once we zoomed. His non-joke was, "Uh ... I'm gonna buy you a new phone". I don't know how long it took, I got new phones for the whole family, because one day I "flipped" it open, and the display kept going to the ground. The most impressive part was, it stayed on for about 2 seconds! Well, the wife and kids were thrilled I finally entered the 21st century. I wasn't because I then had to field "support" questions about "How do you ....?"
 
Old 08-15-2018, 07:39 AM   #4
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Also looking at the user manual for that phone may tell you something.
I neglected to mention that I already had.


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And same applies to Bluetooth as USB. Instead of plug it in, turn BT on and scan on your computer for BT devices appearing.
My computer finds the phone but the phone doesn't find the computer. hcitool begins a connection then drops it immediately, the same as it did with the 2 headsets I tried to attach years ago. I never solved that then.

I mentioned in my original message that I don't have a micro-USB cable.

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I can say that Linux is superior to Windows insofar as "detecting", and then it's a toss up between OSes which one provides more and better utilities to browse or talk to the phone.
I haven't tried Windoze yet but it could connect to the headsets.
 
Old 08-15-2018, 08:08 AM   #5
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Micro USB cables are very common, buy one or borrow one from someone and see if you can see the phone.

Looking it up, it appears to be very much an exactly similar model to what I've had, I'm sure many of us have had in the past. The picture images are 640x480 so they're going to be "so-so" as far as resolution, but still there may be pictures you wish to keep.

Same comment as before, use the text messaging option to send pictures to your email. It however may no longer be active.

The final option is to visit a carrier store and ask them to access the data on the phone so that you can back it up.

Likely there's no BT data profile, and only headset profiles, therefore you probably can't do anything with BT.
 
Old 08-16-2018, 06:45 AM   #6
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Micro USB cables are very common
I've never seen one in the wild. I found one in the Mysterious Orient; it's on a slow boat to civilization.

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The picture images are 640x480 so they're going to be "so-so" as far as resolution, but still there may be pictures you wish to keep.
I'm undemanding.

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Likely there's no BT data profile, and only headset profiles, therefore you probably can't do anything with BT.
I don't understand this comment. What's a Bluetooth data profile?
 
Old 08-16-2018, 08:49 AM   #7
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I've never seen one in the wild. I found one in the Mysterious Orient; it's on a slow boat to civilization.


I'm undemanding.


I don't understand this comment. What's a Bluetooth data profile?
It would seem I have a much greater availability of micro USB cables. Apologies, I have no recommendation which I feel would be of any additional help for that.

Glad to hear that you are fine with the resolution of your pictures.

I suggest you read up about Bluetooth technology and review Bluetooth profiles, but will admit that what I really should have cited would be the File Transfer Profile (FTP) for Bluetooth as opposed to using a general term.
 
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I suggest you read up about Bluetooth technology and review Bluetooth profiles
I've read more about Bluetooth than I have about USB, RS-232 (I wired my own cables), parallel interface, SCSI. I've read the man pages of all the Bluetooth utilities. I have wireless keyboard, mouse, and speakers. If I need to read more just to make a simple connection the spec is defective. The page to which you sent me was descriptive but not useful.

You misunderstood my comment about the micro-USB adaptor. I ordered a cheap one off eBay from China because I'm in no hurry. I assume they're in stores for $5-$10.
 
Old 09-07-2018, 11:01 AM   #9
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I plug my flip phone (Samsung M260, pretty old) into a USB port. It reports charging, but the computer shows no sign of having detected a new usb device; there's no new event in any log when I connect or disconnect. The manual for the phone says that a USB connection can be made. I see listings on eBay for cables for Samsung phones: is there something different from the regular USB cable I use? Do I need to flip the data lines? (Didn't need to flip the power lines.) Do I need a new module? I can't find anything likely in the kernel source. I'd think that it'd show up in lsusb even without the module necessary to use it.
 
Old 09-07-2018, 12:10 PM   #10
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bluetooth: it does what it does and only if the phone makers tell it it can do that. not all bluetooth can transfer files, and images even though they have the capabilities to do so.
 
Old 09-07-2018, 12:28 PM   #11
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The best I have here is to go back to one recommendation I made a few weeks ago, that is providing it is even viable:
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The final option is to visit a carrier store and ask them to access the data on the phone so that you can back it up.
 
Old 09-08-2018, 03:57 PM   #12
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bluetooth: it does what it does and only if the phone makers tell it it can do that. not all bluetooth can transfer files, and images even though they have the capabilities to do so.
So it seems. I was able to pair in Windozzzze (but not in Linux) but file transfer didn't do anything.

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The best I have here is to go back to one recommendation I made a few weeks ago, that is providing it is even viable:
You don't have to repeat yourself. I don't have any data on it yet. I don't want to have to run to the store every time I want to take a picture.

I found some fora which tell me I can't with this phone.
 
Old 09-28-2018, 02:34 AM   #13
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Have you tried using a software like Samsung Kies while your phone is connected to your pc?
 
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Have you tried using a software like Samsung Kies while your phone is connected to your pc?
No. I haven't even heard of it.
 
Old 09-29-2018, 02:01 AM   #15
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samsung kies is windows software only iirc.
if you have windows, you should try it.
 
  


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