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Old 09-01-2021, 10:37 AM   #1
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Forever Chemicals


toxic-forever-chemicals-contaminate-indoor-air

This is about all those chemical preservatives on carpets and just about everything in the house which build up in you. I used to sympathise with fish who are bio-accumulators of things like mercury, and microplastics. Now I find I'm the same.

I have no real idea yet what the implications are.
 
Old 09-02-2021, 07:48 AM   #2
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I also wonder about so called air fresheners, sprays and diffusers which are used to mask other smells. How safe is it to inhale the chemicals they're made of? Then there's the trend for scented candles... Hmmm...

Worrying.

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Old 09-02-2021, 08:03 AM   #3
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These things are commonly known as VOCs (volatile organic chemicals). If you google that term, you can find a lot of stuff about them and their adverse health effects.
 
Old 09-07-2021, 12:52 PM   #4
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Curiously enough, my dad(!) is one of the many chemists who successfully worked to virtually-eliminate the amount of VOC's that were present in the adhesives that are used to fasten carpet to a floor. Today, there are extremely rigorous standards concerning the levels of VOC's that are allowed in the initial formulations and how rapidly they must disperse. Especially in California and New Jersey.

He continues to bore me with tales about his chemical accomplishments ... guess I should listen more closely [while there's still time ...].

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Old 09-08-2021, 04:53 AM   #5
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We did a lot of work on it at the Building Research Establishment too. At that time, people were very worried about something called "sick building syndrome" which was supposedly caused by VOCs.
 
Old 09-08-2021, 11:11 AM   #6
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Well, I remember the pungent, disagreeable smells that used to linger for many weeks after a new piece of carpet had been installed in a building. (I also remember that sometimes my dad came home from work smelling like those same chemicals: the first thing he always did was to stuff his work clothes in a plastic bag and take a quick shower, then toss the clothes into the washer before sitting down to dinner.)

To describe it as "sick building syndrome" was, to my nose at least, pretty darned accurate. I don't miss those days at all.

And my dad tells me that today's adhesives are also significantly better and cheaper, with more than 99% of the VOCs now gone. California and New Jersey have by far the strictest regulations. Probably, had these regulations not existed, industrial chemists wouldn't have bothered.

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Old 09-08-2021, 01:07 PM   #7
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Just saw a documentary.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wRmwppLFL90
 
Old 09-08-2021, 06:31 PM   #8
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Dunno, teckk ... this film seems to somehow presuppose that practicing chemists actually have ulterior motivation. And I really don't think that this is quite fair.

"Yes, there are plenty of chemical processes which are fundamental to our society ... including, say, "gasoline" ... which are damned dangerous," but I'm rather uncomfortable with – what I personally believe to be – this film's (strictly according to me ...) "implication of malfeasance."

Unfortunately for all of us, "there are 'brownstones' literally everywhere." The sensibilities of past generations, although they certainly were never seen as "malfeasance" by the occupants of their place in time, are forever distant from today. ("Thank God ...")

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