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frankbell 11-27-2018 02:50 PM

Ford Wants To Map Your Ride
 
According to my local rag, Ford is exploring sales of customer data as the next big thing. Here's a bit from the story:

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Data mining is a highly lucrative revenue stream.
General Motors recently tracked the habits of 90,000 drivers in Chicago and Los Angeles who agreed to have their car-radio listening habits tracked to assess the potential relationship between what they listen to and what they buy.

Ford CEO Jim Hackett provided a glimpse into what sounds like a potentially massive data mining plan. His remarks were made during a Freakonomics Radio interview for a podcast released Nov. 8.

“We have 100 million people in vehicles today that are sitting in Ford blue-oval vehicles. That’s the case for monetizing opportunity versus an upstart who maybe has, I don’t know, what, they got 120, or 200,000 vehicles in place now. And so just compare the two stacks: Which one would you like to have the data from?” Hackett said, according to the podcast transcript.
More here: https://pilotonline.com/business/job...0945229e8.html

hazel 11-28-2018 08:16 AM

Disgusting!

When Orwell first published Nineteen Eighty Four, a lot of people said it could never happen because people just wouldn't allow themselves to be continuously spied on that way. That is to say, they wouldn't allow the earlier stages of the process that would eventually allow Big Brother to get that degree of control over them. But it seems they're falling over themselves to do it!

frankbell 11-28-2018 08:12 PM

What gets me is the number of persons who fall into the "Why should I care, I've got nothing to hide" trap.

It contains two fallacies.

One is that there is nobody who has nothing to hide. Everyone has something to hide; it may be a big something, more likely it's a little something, but it is some thing.

The other is that some things are just nobody else's business. Full stop.

Speaking of something to hide, at this link, a lawyer ponders on what happens when Alexa is called to testify against you: https://abovethelaw.com/2018/11/alex...r-for-privacy/

jsbjsb001 11-28-2018 10:36 PM

You have no privacy in the street if you're in the city (no worries in the middle of nowhere but), you're smartphone with GPS enabled already spies on you, and now you're car is going to as well.

If you get charged with any crime where I am, they take your DNA sample. I suspect one day, you will not need to commit a crime, they'll do it as soon as you're born.

If you want privacy these days, you would need to disconnect from the Internet, and move out to the middle of nowhere - hopefully I can at least do the latter some day...

syg00 11-29-2018 12:04 AM

qantas (our supposed International carrier) recently revealed it makes more money from its frequent flyer program than it does flying people overseas.

"You are the product".

rokytnji 11-29-2018 09:18 AM

I ride motorcycles. If a helicopter, remote flyer, or Israelite < spell check for satellite> wants to track me.
Nothing to do but grin and bear it.

My 63 F100 needs to be upgraded I guess if I wanna be tracked.

If ford is doing this. I expect it will become the norm on all new vehicles in the future.

Thanks for letting me know.

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f you want privacy these days, you would need to disconnect from the Internet, and move out to the middle of nowhere - hopefully I can at least do the latter some day...
TV out in the middle of no where requires "no disconnect". In other words. Cable, satellite, etc.....I know. I live 2 weeks from every where.

So my router has to handle entertainment. It get's lonely out here.

Pastychomper 11-29-2018 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by frankbell (Post 5931378)
What gets me is the number of persons who fall into the "Why should I care, I've got nothing to hide" trap.

It contains two fallacies.

One is that there is nobody who has nothing to hide. Everyone has something to hide; it may be a big something, more likely it's a little something, but it is some thing.

The other is that some things are just nobody else's business. Full stop.

Spot on. Heck, I have things in my own trousers I prefer to hide.


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