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business_kid 04-21-2021 07:13 AM

For all you folks with a FB Account
 
https://tech.slashdot.org/story/21/04/20/201246/would-be-cool-if-everyone-normalized-these-pesky-data-leaks-says-data-leaking-facebook-in-leaked-memo

The end of it particularly. Any story on the Register might also be worth a read.

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hazel 04-21-2021 08:30 AM

Given that their business model is to collect and then abuse your data, why should they care if other people are abusing the same data?

cynwulf 04-21-2021 09:21 AM

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...it’s important to both frame this as a broad industry issue and normalize the fact this activity happens regularly.
Damage limitation tactics, spreading the blame, etc. Typical really. Not at all surprising.

How they perhaps should have responded, from a conscientious and moral standpoint, was to inform their users/subscribers to be on their guard for increased activity by scammers and the kind of data those scammers may possess. What they probably opted to do instead was to avoid highlighting this recent news in order to avoid mass outrage/scandal/panic/exodus of the majority fickle and pretentious chatter boxes who use the platform.

jsbjsb001 04-21-2021 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by business_kid (Post 6243334)
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From your own link:
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A blundering Facebook public relations operative managed to send a journalist a copy of an internal document detailing the social network's strategy for containing the leaking of 533 million accounts -- and what the memo contained was infuriating though unsurprising.
What else did you expect of narcissistbook Facebook ? Well, neither am I or did I...

But, and in all honesty, who cares unless you still have a narcissistbook Facebook account ? Glad I got out when I did...

boughtonp 04-21-2021 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jsbjsb001 (Post 6243374)
But, and in all honesty, who cares unless you still have a narcissistbook Facebook account ? Glad I got out when I did...

Not having a Facebook account doesn't mean you don't have a Facebook profile.

Last I checked, the Facebook mobile app has access to contact details on every mobile device its installed on, so if someone with your number has that app, so does Mark Zuckerberg. If they happen to also have entered your full name, birth date, email and postal addresses, etc...


jsbjsb001 04-21-2021 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by boughtonp (Post 6243378)
Not having a Facebook account doesn't mean you don't have a Facebook profile.

Last I checked, the Facebook mobile app has access to contact details on every mobile device its installed on, so if someone with your number has that app, so does Mark Zuckerberg. If they happen to also have entered your full name, birth date, email and postal addresses, etc...


Sadly, I already knew about their "shadow profiles" (wish I'd known about that many years ago), but at least I'm not handing my data over to them willingly...

business_kid 04-21-2021 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by boughtonp (Post 6243378)
Not having a Facebook account doesn't mean you don't have a Facebook profile.

Last I checked, the Facebook mobile app has access to contact details on every mobile device its installed on, so if someone with your number has that app, so does Mark Zuckerberg. If they happen to also have entered your full name, birth date, email and postal addresses, etc...

Well, my position is that I have uninstalled/disabled my apps and used some web option to delete my (empty) account years ago and a second one to remove all information. How badly am I caught?

hazel 04-21-2021 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by business_kid (Post 6243411)
Well, my position is that I have uninstalled/disabled my apps and used some web option to delete my (empty) account years ago and a second one to remove all information. How badly am I caught?

Any of your friends that has a Facebook account on their phone will probably have supplied information on you. FB will know your name, phone number, email address and probably your postal address. They will have these from various sources so they will know who belongs to your friendship circle. They will probably have a lot of pictures in which you figure and AI may be able to identify you on sight. They may also know if anyone else lives or once lived at your address; one man was put in touch (as a possible "friend") with the wife he had divorced ten years ago!

Jan K. 04-21-2021 12:18 PM

Pfff... that's all just normal... https://itmunch.com/facebook-data-br...ine-2005-2021/

Luckily Facebook Pay is safe and secure.

ondoho 04-22-2021 01:36 AM

IIRC this is has been in the media for a couple of weeks already, and again if I remember correctly FB knew about this in 2019 already but chose to ignore it - until they were forced to react by the hero that put the data up on the darknet.
In light of that, a little PR sleaziness seems harmless to me.

In any case "unsurprising" is the operative word here. Even my utterly non-techy coworkers understand that FB are the a-holes of social media giants. If only the alternatives were better, or at least not owned by FB...

Oh, and while we in "The West" are turning to alternatives in droves, I believe the situation is different in large parts of the world - FB effectively being the mobile WWW there...?

business_kid 04-23-2021 05:17 AM

Here's another one: https://tech.slashdot.org/story/21/0...mail-addresses

It seems there's a software tool to expose some vulnerability that links emails to accounts, and although FB knew about it they didn't bother patching it.

cynwulf 04-26-2021 11:53 AM

I suggest that their approach to security and privacy is relative the their users' level of precaution / care on those same two aspects.

business_kid 04-27-2021 06:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jan K. (Post 6243426)
Pfff... that's all just normal... https://itmunch.com/facebook-data-br...ine-2005-2021/

Luckily Facebook Pay is safe and secure.

That's a brilliant exposition of FB. Now I want to get that (and any other sleaze posters care to throw up) to the Irish Data Protection Commissioner who is currently investigating Facebook for something. Anything on taxes would be useful also. The webpage is https://www.dataprotection.ie/

You can "Report a breach" of data, or "Raise a concern" from the main page. The investigation has to be centred here because FB's HQ is here.

EDIT: Change of Plan. Don't Bother here. I am opening a separate thread in 'General'

sundialsvcs 04-27-2021 06:30 PM

Never used Facebook®, Instagram®, Twitter®, etc. Never felt the need to. Never intend to.

hazel 04-28-2021 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by sundialsvcs (Post 6245673)
Never used Facebook®, Instagram®, Twitter®, etc. Never felt the need to. Never intend to.

Plus 1 to that! Those places are nothing but troll-holes. However don't flatter yourself that you've got away with it. We both have "shadow profiles" on FB because everyone does, whether they use the site or not.

btw it's nice to see you back again.


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