I'm going to be frank, none of the things I think or ask about with me is going to be a simple sentence and done, I'm sorry.

Linux, a platform so good... So free... That It's highly Avoided, Panned, if not completely Unheard of to the general public; remaining to much of an infantile state of support and progress because of it.

Like seriously, where do I begin?

I can't help but feel at times, being with the literal few Linux users I've ever experienced in person,(and absolute worshipers to the OS Might I say,) like a Trump Supporter, in a Liberal Gathering through the Election time back in like late 2015 or sooner. I mean I'll admit it, I like to use windows, I've grown with it, playing all the sort of "Putt-Putt," "Jump-start" and Lego Harry Potter, and even that one Lego racing game they had for the PC type of kids games. I've went through my middle to high school time playing the late 2007-ish version of Runescape, (The best looking one out of the "revamped" editions might I say.) To Put it short, pretty much my entire childhood, and life up till this point has been on the computer for better or for worse, but more specifically it has been always on some sort of Windows platform, from XP, 7, 8,8.1, and finally 10 at this point. Windows was all I knew, and all my friends too, both in person and online, have ever heard of and forever used practically,(Yes there were friends of mine who used Mac, my father included, but that's besides the point.)
Fast forward a few years in like late high school and I come across my first ever real experience from someone (in person, mind you) to ever even utter the word "Linux" or as he put it, "It's the GNU operating system, God Dammit." Now he was an actual loner-type so he wasn't exactly selling me on the ideal, (if anything more deterring considering he was a sort of his own world, secretive "Creeper" kind of guy, but at least he was nice enough to remove some major Malware on my Laptop.) And with only like one more talk with the guy later in a small bump at College, that was it. Absolute silence once again with both the world I experienced in person, and even the internet, without one hint of a mention of Ubuntu, Linux, or the "Gnu Operating System.

Come about for the last month or two, I come across the second Linux Worshiper, "Mr. 2Cent," we'll call him. And well, being as we shared a dorm room, and appearing more shy and innocent than the previous encounter, my interests and curiosities were actually able to spark into looking into this matter; and Friends as we now are, I've learned more about Linux, (or in my case, "Ubuntu") then I ever would have... Well, Ever; Had I met "Mr. 2Cent" in the circumstances that I live now. Which leads me To both comment and Question a lot about this "Pro-Linux" ideals here. Here's what I'm trying to figure-out:

1. Being that Linux is freeware, (or to what I'm led to believe being that I only know of Ubuntu, OS-wise) You would figure a lot more PC users would also affiliate themselves with it, being well you know, People in general, Lap themselves thoroughly in quite literally ANYTHING that's free. (And I'm talking from an American Welfare state "broke-ass" middle-class man viewpoint in the city here.)
2. As because of #1's case, How is it there is absolutely no development team, (entertainment wise,) supporting a freeware license, if not, CHOOSE to promote their games through Linux to give people the hint, "Hey the grass is greener on this pasture and to show for it, we've planted special brands of grass for you cattle, Now come Over!" Most games that involve an actual installation onto the system is often, strictly windows based, and dare I say, is really the only real option for gamers out there.
3. "Ubuntu is so resource saving, I put the entire OS, onto a disk, and run the entire shtick on the ram of laptop!" (Basically what Mr. 2Cent's ideals crappily summed up to.) "All the super Computers @ Google Use it!!!" (To which I'll give him credit, Just about all knock-off Chinese tablets, and really most of the electronics that China Pours out to the public, uses some sort of Android based system; a lovely product by the coder's behind Linux.) And believe me, he's a devil worshiper with how he praises Linux, He spent an hour and a half pacing back and forth in the dorm room we shared while I was getting dressed and prepped for work, "conniving" of a way to get me to say how "Linux is GOD!" apparently. Now I'm not going to prove him wrong by any sort, but my share of time with Ubuntu has been nothing more than a struggle of hardship trying to get the damn thing to load and install properly on both me laptop and main tower. From trying to get the Wlan card to get registered with the damn OS drivers as compatible, to the slow-ass repeated installations I had to do with the burned in Ubuntu disk onto my main tower, which inevitably my tower refused to recognize the damn Ubuntu boot loader, even with UEFI secure boot off. Not to mention for a little fast loader on most of our Samsung phones, (an ACTUAL competing and more publicly Known debate between the Apple and Samsung parties), it sure as hell has crashed both easily and nearly all the time with my devices, (I have a Samsung Phone, and an Android powered tablet w/Keyboard.) Also it's a shame that most of the Play Store's apps are both Dull, Boring, and mostly time waster's when it comes to actual "entertainment" there, (But I'll hand it to you, it's Hell of a lot more lenient with its file sharing and Modifications.) Speaking off which...
4. What little I actually have tested out officially of Linux, (Ubuntu,) It sure as hell doesn't want to recognize anything .exe or even window's formatted Drives without needing to be reformatted, (Not that it works in the vise-versa either, but I mean come on.) In fact, for a very "secure","Easy to install", and even "Utilized with both Hackers, and Most chips in Robotic Development," It sure as hell can't run .exe programs natively like window's does. (Oh but there's like a third party program, you can run it through that really works half the time, and with some .exe's just not at all, oh thank you, really.) I can certainly assert that window's code in reality, is very truly basic compared to the freeware Linux, (I mean just compare the capabilities and utilities that each Notepad can do on each OS.)But no, having it work around/with the executables is just asking way too much and is far to complicated for the OS to handle.
5. "Having it Terminal-style for everything makes it way more efficient with just using shortcuts on the keyboard and not having to use the evil pesky mouse." (Hate to sound like I'm really pushing the strawman here, but I work with what I know, and in this case, whom I'm stuck with and gives me the info from as well they sorta know the crap a hell of a lot more than I do.) This of course was at the time I was trying to FIRST put Linux onto my laptop, and I purposely chose Ubuntu for its added whole UI that of course, was a desktop. This has less to do with the popularity of such an OS, but I can see why such a factor would deter most of the general public. And as stupid as it sounds, there's just something special about being able to visually see all you folders at once dragging and dropping files, and not the "Command Prompt Style" search and Constantly Changing directory to boot up a file like my early days of DOS and Doom, (ah the good old days.) But Nostalgic problems aside, bringing that back via Linux, especially of what I remember from my First Linux worshiper doing in his laptop, I can say for certain one reason a lot of people would rather avoid dealing with that like the plague, regardless of how advanced this command prompt essentially is. And if this freeware Linux comes in as many confusing forms a kin to the marketing behind Valve's Poor Steam Box, it should be a no brainer to why no one's biting.
6. Also why the crap marketing? I hear all the time on the internet about menial things like console wars, Memes, Cats, *shivers* Furries, Fake News, Religion, Upcoming games on various devices, whether or not someone's shitting on the toilet, you know, the usual banters. I'd see ads of Windows, Macs, Barbeques with Foot massages, Xbox, Sony, Trump (for more or less anyway,) and even lotion for some reason. If I'm not wrong, this is supposed to be the Coalition and collection of all Linux collectors, programmers, fans and so on right? Well this is the internet, if people on the internet want people to know about something, they'll get people in the know of things, for better, and for worse. And as of such, even if the company behind Linux not bother to even advertise their product, the "fan-base" quintessentially and certainly will.

Now at the end of my banter and Unix shaming, I must admit, I'm not trying assert superiority in any sense of the word. If Anything, I'm trying to learn more and pretty much set my mind at ease, blowing off steam as I'm writing this, letting my mind spill what's troubling it. I do use window's 10 professional, and I do happen to enjoy it, but I really am trying to get into the Linux crap, and hopefully, over time perseverance and effort in the knowledge in programming to re-engineer through Linux a freeware Mish-Mash of the two, based on Linux coding, to run .exe programs as they would natively on their old OS in the same prospects where you can run Linux programs. Breaking the divide, and quintessentially a very big and vital part of Microsoft's products. As either party can code for each other with little resistance from the new OS. At least that's My ideal. (I can certainly say I'm trying a hell of a lot more to understand than "Mr. 2Cent" the worshipper is doing.) Yeah people stick to what they know, but I'm really am trying to understand what's holding people back from this truth.

I have window's and I really am trying to install this Ubuntu onto my system, but these frustrations with installation and just general questions I have keep pestering me; which is why I wrote practically an essay trying to get you the viewer, to understand, if not give an actual answer for.

Thank you for taking the time to read this. I would appreciate to hear your thoughts.

I will admit that I skim-read your post because I'm not at home and have, now, to type on my phone.
Linux is not a product to be sold by marketers it is an operating system to be used by those who want it.

And when Linux started, "those who want it" was defined as "people who wanted to run a Unix-like OS on their home PCs". I think that context is important.

Indeed -- the goal was for a Unix-like OS for PCs for practice and whatever else...

http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/u...ows-users.html
may offer some relief.

1. Linux is not freeware. It is open source. While there is no monetary difference, there is quite a large difference in how they can each be used/modified and monetized.

2. Have you ever looked into how much code Red Hat, IBM, HP, Amazon contribute? There most definitely are quite a LARGE amount of development teams...their contributions are simply at the behest of a corporation. They're still development teams contributing to linux.

4. Linux isn't windows. Obviously it's not going to read windows executables. This is common sense. Does Windows run BASIC executables? No. Does Windows run sinclair executables? No. Does Windows run OSX executables? No. Does Android run iOS executables? No. DUH...different complete designed OS's.

I have no idea what the point of that rant was supposed to be. I, along with millions of others, happily use Debian because it is less of a headache to set up and maintain than Windows or Macs. The unified automated software update management system is the big thing that makes my life better via Debian GNU/Linux.

Linux also performs better, but to me that's just icing on the cake. I'd gladly sacrifice 50% of my computer's performance if it means I don't have to spend so much precious time and effort keeping my computers up and running. But instead, of course, Linux boost performance by dramatically reducing the OS overhead compared to Windows. The bottom line is that I get more bang for my buck, and I save a ton of money utilizing cheap computers that others practically throw away because Windows can no longer effectively run on them.

But what does this mean for the average computer user? Honestly, for the average computer user, the stock Windows OS pre-installed on an off-the-shelf computer is less of a learning curve. They suffer the incessant naggings and headaches of Windows, but since most of them only run a web browser, the maintenance effort is at least somewhat minimized. OTOH, the typical stock computer is loaded with a ton of nagging software which is incessantly bombarding the user with pop-ups to check for updates, so... oh well, there are reasons why iOS and Android tablets have done so well in displacing traditional Windows desktops and laptops in the market.

I know it's obviously not going to read windows executables, I'm simply contemplating why a Linux based OS can be designed to be natively compatible, in the same light like a converter like that of what wire's can and can't project through, (video cables in this case.) Frankly, just saying they're different designed OS's is not a validate excuse. After all, I said COMPATIBLE, not that somehow the machine code itself is designed to be reworked to become a literal freeware illegal copy of Windows 10. Does window's run OSX executables? Certainly not, however, I'm sure Apple would pull out of the legal stops to ensure that Microsoft doesn't make it compatible, read, and executable. Now as for Sinclair, and more importantly BASIC, I'm simply going to admit that I lack the knowledge for what those two are compatible with, but I can certainly say there's no specific legal action behind them to stop Microsoft from stopping it. After all, the New Windows 10 professional has now added a new type of executable to its roster anyway, known as MSI files. Which partake my assumption the file type might be related to Microsoft, if I'm not that too far off, just goes to show that if window's can expand their roster, (or at least give another congratulatory circle jerk too themselves.)
Basically, saying they can't because we grew up being told to draw in-between the lines with this belonging here and only here and so on is absolute BS.

As for the second, what businesses do at any point compared to the actual people involved isn't an actual point, was what I was trying to get across. What works for business may not always work for the public individual, point exactly. Otherwise, we'd all be on/behind Linux, on a larger scale, that wouldn't have led to my whole post now would I? My argument to make Linux compatible with executables would hold no water or purpose if preferably all programs were designed for Linux as window's has already. In fact it would be the opposite issue; but with good reason. "OH WHY is everything designed for Linux and Not Windows!!!" Unfortunately such a world/people don't exist as of yet.

And honestly I would have said for number one my last point still would stand anyway, I just didn't refer to the right title. (And by that I mean, they can be sold as specific packages, can be implemented and programmed into machines, chips, and machinery to make these companies more efficient without have to risk much, monetary wise, with an open disclosure to distribution for package schematics, but sure it's not entirely freeware.) To be fair I'm not here to contemplate the legal matters of this; only that I know its entirely possible to mess around and release interesting constructs as Linux being the tool, without fear, that Microsoft or Apple want to push themselves in and pretty much take what is theirs, if not set a lawsuit over the whole thing.

Had Had the roles of copyright been reversed between Microsoft and the makers of Linux, we'd too, see more people utilize "Windows" in their machines like Linux to avoid paying for the rights to use it. Like seriously imagine paying for every Linux based OS you've experimented with, or just downright downloaded and installed with the price rights as a windows 10 bios boot disk? See what I'm trying to get at?

In case you didn't know:

Windows does run Linux executables. It has for the last, oh, year?

Of course not.

If you have a point, get to it. We don't need your process of "trying to get at" it.

Fine I'll explain using the most spelled out phrase possible. "Simply saying you can't because that's how things are, is something that only serves to hold back the individual, not progress." Hell the point is in your own quote of something I'm supposed to know, (not to mention give a score up for people to stay on windows, and not move onto the clearly better selection.) You know I don't get to say this much but, Patrick, your contradiction is showing!

From where comes this obsession that "Linux" should do anything to attract or appease anybody?

Things are as they are because that is how the very complex situation has left them.

Choose the hardware, OS and programs you wish to used based upon your own wants, needs and beliefs and others will do the same.

And here I thought [removed] Dugan gave a point to the enemy team, no this one just tore open a gigantic-[removed] hole.

Do you really want to know why a product should attempt to appease/attract people, or are you trying to purposely play dumbass to sound like you're actually giving wise words of wisdom like a mystical mountaintop monk elder?

Just no...

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@Hernando:

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Convenient to go to the grocer. Healthier to take the time to hit the farmer's market.

Windows is easy like a Mcburger. Linux is a heathier environment for your data and computer.

Windows rules for the same reasons as Wallmart, 711, Carefour or whatever. Convenience at a greater cost. In Window's case, the cost of insecure data, more crashes, and cash money as well.

I better get to the market.