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Old 01-07-2025, 06:02 AM   #16
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Walking


I usually walk as i do not have any hurries. on longer distances i use my bike.
 
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When I was quite young, I used to enjoy motor-bikes, which I notice nobody has mentioned. For a budding petrol head, the adrenaline rush & acceleration was only beaten by dragsters & racing go-karts. Before pollution consciousness, two-strokes reigned supreme in every racing category ≤500cc.

But in the early 1960s, Honda challenged this two stroke superiority with a series of twin cylinder 50CC racers, RC112-RC116. The RC116 revved to 22,000 rpm, peaking power at 21,500 rpm. They won at least one World Championship.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_RC116
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It was rumoured they had a 4 cylinder 50cc in development, and 2 strokes designers started designing multiple cylinder models. But the rule book was changed to mandate a max of 2 cylinders and 6 gears below 250cc. All these 50cc designs needed many close-ratio gears to stay on peak power.

On any given race day in Santa Pod, Britain's main drag-racing track, at least one guy was likely to blow up his racer, costing him thousands of £££ and months of work. But a ≅6.5 second ¼ mile from a standing start must be the mother of all adrenalin rushes.

The other option was go-karts, >100mph on straights with your backside a few inches (50-75mm) above ground. I'm told karts beat bikes, but I'm not convinced. In the Isle of Man races each year, racers hit a hump-back bridge at ~170 mph. A kart never does that.

Needless to say, when I caught religion, I had to say goodbye to my motorbikes. I was never in drag or kart racing.

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Old 01-08-2025, 02:19 PM   #18
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For long distances. the upper deck of a 747. Sadly, the 747 is out of production, but they will still be flying for another decade or two, but, most likely, only in a cargo configuration.
Many years ago I enjoyed the European train system. Much nicer than any train I've ridden in the U.S.
Trains are great for shorter distances, but not convenient in this area. Seems they have gone the way of the 747, that is, used mostly for hauling freight. Over the last ten years or so many of the tracks in this area have been removed or paved over. The only railroad bridge in the local area, that I know of, has been taken out of service.
The trains are still running though. Being a "seasoned citizen" I don't sleep well (comes with old age) and I'm usually up well before the chickens. At that time of the morning I can hear trains blowing their whistles off in the distance. Always brings a smile to my face while having that first cup of coffee.

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Old 01-09-2025, 06:59 PM   #19
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The trains are still running though. Being a "seasoned citizen" I don't sleep well (comes with old age) and I'm usually up well before the chickens. At that time of the morning I can hear trains blowing their whistles off in the distance. Always brings a smile to my face while having that first cup of coffee.
If you're not in a rush trains are a great way to mellow out and enjoy the scenery. My 21 year old lives 730 KM east of us. Spending a day to get there is enjoyable.
 
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Are there any steam engines still running over there?

I think they changed the gauge here, but I know there's a line going in North England or Scotland somewhere. There is an annual steam fair in Stradbally, but it's mainly farm machinery.
 
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Here in my area, we have the Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum, which maintains several "steamers" in good working order and regularly takes them out on excursions. Movie companies hire them frequently, since these engines don't have to "fake it." They're the real thing, reliable, and ready to work all day. They come with experienced crews who know how to maintain and run them, and who like to put on costumes.

I have heard that Amtrak is expanding its service plan. So, it may one day be that "The Chattanooga Choo-Choo" (Terminal Station), which is still connected by just one track to the main-line, might become a railroad station again . . . The city has always been a major freight hub, with two extensive yards.

Trains are a "delightfully civilized" way to get from place to place. You haven't actually seen your country until you see it by train (or, river): you're just flying over it at 30,000 feet.

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Railway takes you back to more peaceful times. before railways, there were canals. Zero stress there. Any river waterfall could be harnessed for energy by constructing a water wheel. The Romans built an assembly of such (in what was then Gaul?) with 16 wheels in parallel. These were mainly used as mills for: making cloth; paper; grinding flour, or other purposes.

The output of some mill deep in the country would be loaded on a barge, and a man would be paid to take it to the port (usually Dublin). This would involve leading some animal towing the barge along the towpath. An incline meant regular canal locks, where the lock keeper had to be found, to get the barge raised or lowered. Journey time would be several days there and as much back. People had to be paid - lock keepers, food for the animal and yourself. A week or two later, there'd be another load, etc. He could, and probably did .travel there and back under the influence on 'His Lordship's' money. Now that's relaxed
 
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"The railroad" was an absolute disruption to the "canal" system, which until that time had been the only way to transport heavy freight long distances.

Fortunately, here in America, many efforts have now been taken to preserve the remnants of that canal system. A number of our national parks and historic sites directly, or indirectly (such as "Cuyahoga"), strive to keep their importance – and, their remarkable engineering – in the public eye.

Many early railroad routes were subsequently constructed either in the channel of a former canal, or along its towpath.

But: I also have several very interesting books which discuss the river commerce in America: when the Mississippi, the Ohio, and the Missouri Rivers were not yet tamed. When the most-horrible thing that could happen to your vessel was to be impaled by a hidden tree-trunk, which could sink it on the spot. When you built un-powered vessels to be carried down the rivers to the sea, then cut them up for firewood or building material and built another. (And then came the "steamboat.")

I also keenly remember being taken on a driving trip through Germany – after having given a talk at a conference concerning the database software "Paradox" – when I looked at a rocky bend in a rapidly-flowing river, called "The Loreli." And watched river-boats adroitly maneuvering around it. I could easily see what the fuss was about.

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Are there any steam engines still running over there?

I think they changed the gauge here, but I know there's a line going in North England or Scotland somewhere. There is an annual steam fair in Stradbally, but it's mainly farm machinery.
Our trains are diesel. A steam engine would be amazing!
 
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"The railroad" was an absolute disruption to the "canal" system, which until that time had been the only way to transport heavy freight long distances.

Fortunately, here in America, many efforts have now been taken to preserve the remnants of that canal system. A number of our national parks and historic sites directly, or indirectly (such as "Cuyahoga"), strive to keep their importance – and, their remarkable engineering – in the public eye.

Many early railroad routes were subsequently constructed either in the channel of a former canal, or along its towpath.

But: I also have several very interesting books which discuss the river commerce in America: when the Mississippi, the Ohio, and the Missouri Rivers were not yet tamed. When the most-horrible thing that could happen to your vessel was to be impaled by a hidden tree-trunk, which could sink it on the spot. When you built un-powered vessels to be carried down the rivers to the sea, then cut them up for firewood or building material and built another. (And then came the "steamboat.")

I also keenly remember being taken on a driving trip through Germany – after having given a talk at a conference concerning the database software "Paradox" – when I looked at a rocky bend in a rapidly-flowing river, called "The Loreli." And watched river-boats adroitly maneuvering around it. I could easily see what the fuss was about.
In Ireland, we only have one river big enough for river barges - the Shannon. There are holiday packages where you can hire the barge for a week, and fish, or enjoy yourself. Canals and railways had to have pretty level ground. I haven't done it, but I think there is a lock or two. There are train tunnels but no tunnelling for canals.

The towpaths were the last vestige of the countryside in Dublin city as they were largely untraveled & quiet amidst the roads, pavements & traffic of the city, But now they are often used by those seeking asylum as somewhere to put up their tents. Ireland can't house it's influx of Asylum seekers. So they concentrate on women & children, while the men are given a tent, and told to rough it. There just isn't the accommodation available. A dictator could get accommodation or asylum-seekers(!) sorted fast enough, but we're not that desperate.

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Old 01-11-2025, 09:20 AM   #26
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It would be difficult to describe my favourite mode of transport as it would all depend upon the specifics of the journey, but my top three modes are flying, sailing and rail.

Unlike many, I enjoy flying (both on commercial airliners but also privately in light aircraft) but it is very journey dependent. Commercial flying domestically and within Europe isn't much fun as almost all European airlines operate short haul flights on a pack 'em and stack 'em model, even in 'business class' (the exception, if you count it as a European airline, being Turkish Airlines – which is ironic as I don't think their long-haul business class cabins are particularly special). But it is often the most convenient form for international travel (particularly from the United Kingdom). For example, where I live, I am less than 10 minutes from my regional airport. If I wanted to avoid flying to go to Brussels, I could take a train or a bus to my nearest mainline railway station, travel by train to London, take the Underground to St Pancras railway station and then take a Eurostar to Brussels; but it would be quicker and less hassle to take a short taxi ride to the airport, then fly KLM to Amsterdam Schiphol and then take an intercity train from Schiphol Airport to Brussels. Even for some domestic journeys, for example if I wanted to go to the North East of England, Scotland or Northern Ireland, it's going to be quicker and more convenient for me to travel by aircraft, whether that be a direct flight to Edinburgh or Belfast City from my local airport, going to my next nearest regional airport (with a wider choice of destinations) or even flying from my local airport with KLM via Amsterdam.

And long-haul flights in business/first class (or even premium economy if you're taking a daytime flight of up to 6 or 7 hours – so from the UK think East Coast of the United States going west or the Gulf States going east), as well as short-haul flights in those parts of the world that still offer proper premium cabins on short-haul aircraft, can be quite pleasant so long as you pick the right airline (and sometimes even the right flight offered by that airline). Flying in premium cabins (business and above) or having sufficient airline status (not necessarily with the airline you're flying with, just with an airline in the same alliance that airline is a part of) can also take some of the sting out of the pre-flight ground experience with fast-track check-in, fast-track security and a lounge, but some of those can be airport and airline dependent. But when it's done right, not only is flying the quickest way to travel long distances, it can be enjoyable too.

Similarly to flying, I enjoy sailing (both on merchant ships but also personally on sailing yachts and RIBs). In terms of my passenger experiences (i.e., where I have not been the skipper or a part of the crew), these have been a couple of journeys on ferries (in one sense nothing special, but I enjoy being at sea nonetheless) and several cruises with my father when I was younger. Whilst I have lots of ideas for personal sailing cruises, I don't have any plans at the moment for any cruises on a glamorous passenger cruise ship. That said, I would like at some stage to do a transatlantic crossing on the QM2 from Southampton to New York and I do think it would be fun at some point to escape for a few weeks by booking a passage aboard a container ship operated by one of the shipping lines that sells a few cabins on their normal routes – perhaps from India to somewhere in SE Asia (I'd get a lot of reading done in between hours spent staring out at the horizon from the bridge).

Finally, I travel a lot by train. In a similar manner to my interest in aviation and sailing, I also have an interest in railways (but in this case, simply as a passenger). My daily commute involves two train journeys each way (it's quicker than driving) and I also take the train to London fairly frequently. But railways as a mode of passenger transport are quite limited and if you're reliant on it to get from A to B (particularly if that involves a connection variously at X and/or Y and/or Z) then it can be quite a frustrating way to travel. The most enjoyable way to travel by train is to treat it as an experience (like Pullman dining or sleeper trains), but that isn't often what people are looking for in a day-to-day form of transport. I have only taken one sleeper train thus far and that was only four months ago on the Night Riviera from London to Cornwall. (I was making the journey directly having returned from a trip to Istanbul and I was going to join family for a few days before returning home). Unfortunately, I awoke in the middle of the night with food poisoning (I suspect from a salad I had in a lounge at Istanbul Airport, but I can't say for certain) and spent much of the rest of the journey variously feeling sorry for myself in my cabin and rushing to the toilet compartment to be violently sick; all of which somewhat spoiled the experience. Despite that, I intend to travel on the only other sleeper train in the UK – the Caledonian Sleeper – between London and Inverness some time in the next year or so. I also want to try one of ÖBB's Nightjet services (perhaps from Vienna to Rome or Brussels). Farther afield, high on the list are VIA Rail's Canadian from Toronto to Vancouver and then continue onwards via Amtrak to Seattle, Portland, San Francisco and possibly Los Angeles. And I'd also like to travel from Singapore* to Bangkok by train with a stop in Kuala Lumpur (* strictly speaking, there isn't a railway station in Singapore – you cross just over the border into Malaysia to catch a train). Now that North Korea has reopened to tourists too, one of the two possible means of entry to the country (on a tour) is by special train from Beijing to Pyongyang; but as a visit to the DPRK would complicate entry into the United States, it may be best to leave it until after the trip down the West Coast. There are other sleeper trains I'd like to take including the famous Venice Simplon-Orient-Express and some other luxurious sleeper trains within Japan and South Africa, but they are very expensive and merely exist as items on the wish-list.

If you're someone interested in travelling long distances by train, you might be interested in the website The Man in Seat 61. The author is British and so is perhaps a little UK-centric, but by the nature of overseas travel offers lots of valuable information regardless of your point of origin.

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Our trains are diesel. A steam engine would be amazing!
Can't think of a term that fits, but most of the trains in the U.S., that run outside of local transit systems, are diesels (electric). Transit systems, such as B.A.R.T and subway systems are electric (3rd rail). Steam engines are, as mentioned above, antiques which are maintained and operated by railroad enthusiasts.

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Within America, steam engines are no longer used for any "regular" transportation. It is quite impossible to economically justify their use today, compared to diesel power. But, there are still railroads (such as the Union Pacific) which carefully maintain copies of their historic, "gigantic" engines. And from time to time bring them on excursions – sometimes with a diesel unobtrusively coupled to the other end, "just in case."

Likewise our "TVRM." Which still tells the tale of when a diesel broke down on an excursion, and a steamer had to quickly be sent out on the line to bring it home!

(The railroad museum preserves and maintains both steam and diesel engines, as well as various historic cars.)

The "steamer," simply stated, "could not go very far for very long." And, if you needed "more power," you had to build "a bigger engine." Which sometimes lead to million-plus-pound monsters. These costs threatened to wipe out the entire railroad enterprise. The "diesel-electric" locomotive proved to be the all-around solution. Once it became available, there was no turning back. Nearly all of the "steamers" were recycled.

The diesel-electric system uses electric motors to directly drive the wheels, while the motors and alternators aboard the engines are connected by an electric bus. This allows tremendous flexibility as the train navigates through various terrain, with associated fuel economy. The "steamer" simply cannot match this. Railroads like to boast that they can transport one ton of freight more than 450 miles on a single gallon of diesel fuel. And, "if you do the math," they are correct.

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The number of steam locomotives in commercial service are relatively small in number and limited to niche roles. Bosnia still operates some old German locomotives for freight service whilst I think China did operate some steam locomotives (appropriately on coal services) until recently. Maybe North Korea does too? I can't think of anywhere that is operating steam locomotives in passenger-revenue, commercial service.

That said, there are numerous heritage railways in the UK and a couple in the Crown Dependencies (I don't think there are any in the British Overseas Territories). The longest, independent, standard-gauge heritage railway line is the West Somerset Railway at ~23 mi. (~37 km).
 
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I believe India still has a mountain railway operated by steam locos with rack & pinion because of the severity of grades....
 
  


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