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Old 10-12-2016, 02:47 PM   #31
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oooh, i love how she moves her mouth during that first minute...
 
Old 10-12-2016, 04:07 PM   #32
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You will not see it on the mainstream news of the United States; but we are committing war crimes in Yemen and elsewhere!!

http://www.theamericanconservative.c...-war-on-yemen/
 
Old 10-12-2016, 04:24 PM   #33
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You will not see it on the mainstream news of the United States; but we are committing war crimes in Yemen and elsewhere!!

http://www.theamericanconservative.c...-war-on-yemen/
What? Naawww, get outta here with that propaganda....... Everybody else but the US is dirty.

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In all seriousness though - just what credibility does the US have on the world stage anyhow?
 
Old 10-12-2016, 06:45 PM   #34
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As far as the 9/11 thing, quite honestly the US has never had the 'pleasure' of a real war on it's own lands. The US only sees things like wars they perpetuate. I often wonder how the US would cope if it had suffered what Europe has. I am pretty sure the populace would have a very different idea about war, and not just what they saw in the 1970s of just dozens of servicemen, but millions upon millions.
Actually, they did experience "Total War in its own lands," once. And they did it to themselves.

The American Civil War killed by far more soldiers than all other conflicts in which the US has (officially ...) been involved, combined. And this was only the number "killed." In those days, soldiers that were "wounded" were as good as dead. And, it also never considered civilian casualties, which were not even counted. Entire cities were wiped out, such as the city of Atlanta.

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The world is seeing past all the subterfuge by the US. Again, the Dollar will soon go by the way-side, who knows what will be in it's place, but it sure as hell won't be the British Pound. Also the US dollar is all but worthless. Again, if any other economic power (China, Russia, Europe) were to call the US' bluff and ask what they are basing the value of the Dollar, the jig-is-up.
The "obligatory ties to the USD" originated at a time (Bretton Woods ...) when the US promised to pay for Dollars in Gold. But when, in the 1970's, they realized that nations were making good on that promise, they reneged, and replaced it with nothing-at-all. That might be okay if the United States were not now printing billions of the things, and using them to pay for War.

Obviously, this sort of change is not something to be done lightly, and it won't be, but in the end I think it will be done, if only to compel the US to once more uphold its own part of the world economic bargain. As long as the US can "print, with impunity," currency units that are absolutely on-par with yours, then it has no particular incentive to produce for itself. There is no negative pressure; no consequences. Therefore, good ol' human nature being what it is, decisions are daily being made that have enormous effects on the US's so-called "trading partners." (sic)
 
Old 10-12-2016, 06:53 PM   #35
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So my family and I fled from the evils of communism, and not once did we think that the one country we came to; could be just as sinister and cynical against it's own populace and the entire world. Guess that was our own fault for being so naive.
(Wince!)

As an American (native) citizen, it breaks my heart to hear you say this. I would say, on behalf of the "my country" that is still there in spite of its present (non-)leadership ... "I'm sorry."

Yes, even though I have also recently expressed the opinion that my country is "the biggest threat right now to world peace," I do not think that this is reflective of what the majority of the citizens in the country believe, want, or even are aware of. I do believe that there is, at very long last, an increasing awareness among "the common plebes" that there is something very-seriously wrong. But there is also a deep-rooted belief that such wrongs can be righted.
 
Old 10-13-2016, 02:34 AM   #36
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...Yes, even though I have also recently expressed the opinion that my country is "the biggest threat right now to world peace," I do not think that this is reflective of what the majority of the citizens in the country believe, want, or even are aware of...
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"Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." -- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials, http://www.snopes.com/quotes/goering.asp
I'm puzzled by one of the candidates for the Presidency of the US having any followers at all - does no-one read "The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich" (errors and all, but it was a warning, not a manual) any more?
 
Old 10-13-2016, 12:30 PM   #37
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I am curious as to why the United States intends to wage war in Yemen!!
 
Old 10-13-2016, 01:19 PM   #38
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(Wince!)

As an American (native) citizen, it breaks my heart to hear you say this. I would say, on behalf of the "my country" that is still there in spite of its present (non-)leadership ... "I'm sorry."

Yes, even though I have also recently expressed the opinion that my country is "the biggest threat right now to world peace," I do not think that this is reflective of what the majority of the citizens in the country believe, want, or even are aware of. I do believe that there is, at very long last, an increasing awareness among "the common plebes" that there is something very-seriously wrong. But there is also a deep-rooted belief that such wrongs can be righted.
Well you don't really have anything to apologise for. When you have a system that legally allows 'lobbying' which is nothing more than bribery, there are new ways that it can be hijacked without the use of force.

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I am curious as to why the United States intends to wage war in Yemen!!
Probably because they know that they cannot get their grubby mitts on Syria, so are going for a different spot in the ME to exploit.
 
Old 10-14-2016, 02:42 PM   #39
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I am curious as to why the United States intends to wage war in Yemen!!
<sarcasm> Iraq is no fun anymore. </sarcasm>

That is a good question but I'm sure oil plays a role in there somewhere.
 
Old 10-21-2016, 02:25 AM   #40
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A rather interesting take, but a bit one sided. This video, and western media has not addressed one point - WHY exactly is Russia suddenly waking up? Who 'poked' the Bear so-to-speak? The elephant in the room of course is NATO. The Baltic countries are right to fear being invaded, but they should ask themselves reason for it?

The placement of missiles in Poland probably did not help matters - again I am sure Putin could oblige with any missiles, I'm sure one in Warsaw should do.

Which now leads the most likely other target - the UK - while their own status has always been rather murky; since they considered themselves European only when convenient.

I posted earlier that the US has never really truly known the full horrors of war, save the Civil War - but perhaps the US has forgotten that lesson. Now the stakes are much higher - and again all of Europe has seen and lived through the nightmare of modern warfare - the US not at all on their on doorstep.

Once again also Syria is brought up - since the Russians have a presence there for an indefinite amount of time - I don't see what the US is still somehow clinging onto 'regime change'.

Speaking of which - the Philippines pivoted to China and Russia - so things get more interesting don't they? I wonder what the US is going to do about that? Maybe stir things up, and topple Duterte? I wouldn't put it past the state department.

Things are in motion now due to mistakes the US refuses to acknowledge; and we will all be dead because of it. My only regret is that I probably do not live in any major strategic location - so when the missiles hit - I will have to contend with a slow and painful death.
 
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Vote Hitlary. Do the Reich thing.

?too soon?

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Soo many nuclear powers with nuclear arsenals. All connected to the public internet in some form or another. Be it the early detection systems or actual weapons. It's inevitable from a certain POV. 70+yo stockpiles for some nations, it just takes one to trigger them all.
 
Old 10-21-2016, 12:01 PM   #43
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Vote Hitlary. Do the Reich thing.

?too soon?
I lol'd at that; not to be edgy but I do think that the whole PC culture just needs to pull the stick out from under their ass and just lighten up - before doing so literally from a missile .

"Don't be a dummy be a smarty, come and join the Nazi Party"
--The Producers

On a more serious note though it is our politicians and their short-sighted view of things that will be the death of us all. I have pretty much resigned myself to this fate and only thing I can do is just have a very dark sense of humour about it all.
 
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The "experts" who "predict" it of course...

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