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Old 01-05-2022, 05:32 PM   #16
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It remains strange to me how much "Big Money" has been able to "commoditize" what should be the most unrestricted thing on this planet: "The World-Wide Web." Yet, they have managed to do so ... perhaps, "until now."

For instance, "Twitter" commercialized "IRC = Internet Relay Chat," even initially copying a thoroughly-arbitrary message size limit that (I happen to know ...) originated from the peculiarities of the IBM-3270 mainframe terminal when running under VM/SP. "Facebook" morphed itself from the "web-browser forums and chat rooms" that were beginning to develop.

(One of my colleagues and still-friends was the unsung individual who put the word, "Relay," into that acronym, while I administered the VM/SP system upon which he originally did it.)

Well, now, so confident have they become of their "market stranglehold" that they engage in censorship. And, so confident are they about "advertising = the only possible source of revenue" that they censor this, too.

As for me, I'm entirely ready for these "Big Tech" (sic ...) people to be forced to remember their technological roots. They have never, in fact, "had an exclusive," and, by the intrinsic nature of the Internet itself, they never will.

I welcome the success of DuckDuckGo, and use it daily, for exactly one reason: "because they provide me with a better answer."

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Old 01-05-2022, 07:07 PM   #17
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Wasn't there a controversy about who owns StartPage?
Yes, there was concern about the takeover of StartPage by System1, an internet advertising and consumer marketing company. This led the people then over at PrivacyTools (who have now moved to Privacy Guides) to remove StartPage from their recommended search engine providers list.

However, subsequently they were satisfied that System1's purchase of StartPage did not threaten the latter's operations as a privacy-focused search engine provider.
 
Old 01-06-2022, 04:43 AM   #18
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I wouldn't touch Startpage. The whole Privacy One / System 1 takeover has tainted it forever.

http://techrights.org/2019/12/16/sys...he-messengers/
 
Old 01-07-2022, 12:42 PM   #19
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https://duckduckgo.com/?q=pinebook64...deos&ia=videos

well. it does not find any results.

It needs like opensource help. duckduckgo.com could share their source code.
 
Old 01-07-2022, 03:02 PM   #20
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https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=pinebook64
https://html.duckduckgo.com/html?q=pinebook64ANDvideo

First few hits for me.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SIF2YbnOHB4
https://thexvid.com/rev/pinebook+64/
 
Old 01-12-2022, 08:21 PM   #21
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thanks

anyhow using duckduckgo is also non libre or non-free. The source code is not available.

Have you looked at more libre web search engines, hosted by some libre institutions, which means with opensource code and on the libre FreeBSD, NetBSD or OpenBSD servers or also GNU/Linux servers?

there is YaCy. We run YaCy on our servers, it is quite okay, but still. It has too much dependencies, and it does not search so well as duckduckgo.

https://yacy.net/demonstration_tutorial_screenshot/

https://i.postimg.cc/9fyyKn8X/yaci.png

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Old 01-13-2022, 09:10 AM   #22
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Code:
echo 'GET / HTTP/1.1n' | nc duckduckgo.com 443 | grep '^Server:'
Server: nginx
https://duckduckgo.com/sitemap.xml
https://duckduckgo.com/about
https://duckduckgo.com/privacy
https://duckduckgo.com/bang?q=

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=!w+carbon

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=!g+carbon

https://duckduckgo.com/bang_lite.html
 
Old 01-13-2022, 01:51 PM   #23
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i use duckduckgo or qwant by default unless i have a belief google will give me far better results (it has happened but that was a few months ago).
 
Old 01-13-2022, 03:59 PM   #24
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Bing works for voice search. Duckduck go doesn't offer that. (Google's only works with chrome).
 
Old 01-14-2022, 01:52 AM   #25
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Just use : YaCi <-- this is opensource ! really.
 
Old 01-15-2022, 04:30 AM   #26
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Just use : YaCi <-- this is opensource ! really.
Really?
 
Old 01-17-2022, 05:34 PM   #27
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I use duckduckgo as my default search engine. Even at work. Bing and Google are two I stay away from if all possible. DDG is simple to use -- if you can spell and type.
 
Old 01-17-2022, 07:00 PM   #28
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Just use : YaCi <-- this is opensource ! really.
I guess this refers to YaCy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YaCy
 
  


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