Dual Booters out there -- What do you still run on Windows

slackd · 10-09-2009, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Switch7

However, I'm not sure if this is what you meant but there's a slackbuild for MPlayer that already comes with VDPAU inside the slackware DVD by patrick? I couldn't locate anything on the slackware dvd, slackbuilds.org, alien bob's site, or rworkman's site that has anything to do with VDPAU.

It's great to hear that, I never seen the performance or quality of MPlayer+VDPAU but I been hearing great things about it.

i am very sorry i was not specific, i meant u have to modify the default slackbuild from the slackware dvd > source <

Code:

./configure --prefix=/usr \
            --mandir=/usr/man \
            --confdir=/etc/mplayer \
            --enable-gui \
            --enable-menu \
            --enable-largefiles \
            --disable-arts \
	    --enable-vdpau \
            --codecsdir=${CODECSDIR} \
            --win32codecsdir=${CODECSDIR} \
            --realcodecsdir=${CODECSDIR} \
            --language="${LANGUAGES}" \
            ${EXTRACONFIGUREOPTIONS} \
            ${DO_PATENTED} \
            2>&1 | tee $OUTPUT/configure-${PRGNAM}.log

now that u have modified the slackbuild, get the latest mplayer from their svn directory & also the latest ffmpeg from aliens repo and finally smplayer 0.6.8. (best front end in my opinion)

jedi_sith_fears · 10-10-2009, 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by rkelsen

At work - because I have to.

At home - I don't.

can't say better than this

jedi_sith_fears · 10-10-2009, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh000

I still use Windows, because it is pretty much the best Desktop OS there is. Sorry, but Linux is still very much a mess for this regard. Linux sound and video is only just catching up, and so are applications. OpenOffice simply cannot match Office, unless you are a very casual user. Sound is still a mess, and there is no professional video editing solution. I am not so much concerned with the politics or idealogly as to why this is, but rather the reality.

"best" has a different definition for every user. Most users like windows as thats what they used at first, and most people dont like to try new things are afraid of it. There are many users who started with linux and find windows pretty much confusing.

OpenOffice is used in many corporate offices, and they are doing their work with it and still have no problem with it.

Sound was never a mess for me, since the good old days.

foodown · 10-10-2009, 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh000

I still use Windows, because it is pretty much the best Desktop OS there is. Sorry, but Linux is still very much a mess for this regard. Linux sound and video is only just catching up, and so are pplications. OpenOffice simply cannot match Office, unless you are a very casual user. Sound is still a mess, and there is no professional video editing solution. I am not so much concerned with the politics or idealogly as to why this is, but rather the reality.

Interesting . . . sound is a mess? I have not experienced significant sound problems in Linux since Slackware 3.2. Maybe it's just that I always run Creative sound cards.

You are right about OpenOffice . . . but, Word, Excel, and Power Point run pretty flawlessly under WINE. The rest of Office is pretty much useless no matter what platform you run it on.

I appreciate your point of view, but I'd wager that my Slackware desktop is more functional and better looking than any Windows desktop.

Even if you cannot accept this, I'd still contend that Mac OS X is a better desktop than Windows XP, Vista, or 7 . . . Heck, Mac OS 8 was a better desktop than XP, Vista, or 7. Therefore, Windows is not the best desktop OS.

jedi_sith_fears · 10-10-2009, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by foodown

Interesting . . . sound is a mess? I have not experienced significant sound problems in Linux since Slackware 3.2. Maybe it's just that I always run Creative sound cards.

I agree on that, though now I use on-board sound.

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Originally Posted by foodown

Windows is not the best desktop OS.

Thumbs up on that. At least not as long as linux is alive, that is.

slackd · 10-10-2009, 03:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh000

I still use Windows, because it is pretty much the best Desktop OS there is. Sorry, but Linux is still very much a mess for this regard. Linux sound and video is only just catching up, and so are applications. OpenOffice simply cannot match Office, unless you are a very casual user. Sound is still a mess, and there is no professional video editing solution.

Not to mention Games. The latest Batman game is fairly amazing. I keep Slack around for network pen testing, auditng, programming, and learning, forever learning. It is also where I keep my VM machines to toy with OpenSolaris and OpenBSD.

To have a complete desktop experience, even without games, without using Windows simply is not possible at this stage, in a way I would be happy with.

well, you've used the word mess a lot.. speaking from personal experience, Slackware has never given me a problem when it comes to sound and i am using it for 2yrs now.

OpenOffice is used extensively in many offices and schools and other institutions, at least in India.

however, i have to totally agree with u on ur point about the gaming.
btw..have u tried Nexuiz, plz do if u haven't already.

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Originally Posted by Josh000

I still use Windows, because it is pretty much the best Desktop OS there is.

Come'on gimme a break....

~sHyLoCk~ · 10-10-2009, 04:21 AM

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Originally Posted by cwizardone

As to video, have you tried Kino?

Unfortunately kino is nowhere as good as the video editing apps available in windows. Quite sad actually, one of the reasons I have to keep logging into XP. Tried win7 but that takes more space so came back to XP.

jedi_sith_fears · 10-10-2009, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ~sHyLoCk~

Tried win7 but that takes more space so came back to XP.

and more resource-hungry too.

How about Avidemux?

dizzi · 10-10-2009, 06:57 AM

1. It (XP Pro, plus a free upgrade to Vista Business - not taken though) came free my laptop

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2. Certain programs for school work - especially latest versions (Photoshop, Flash, Director, MATLAB etc) and especially some Microsoft products such as Visual Studio, Visio and Project work hassle free on Windows. I guess I can have equivalent programs or the same on Linux but students are offered a large number of these products free or at hugely discounted prices on Windows so why not?
3. Others (at home and friends) use it so its good to remain up to speed.
4. It does it hurt to broaden one's knowledge - especially with a product which is still popular with the masses

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tomtomjkw · 10-10-2009, 07:46 AM

Checkpoint vpn client.

slackd · 10-10-2009, 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jedi_sith_fears

How about Avidemux?

will try this Avidemux. had a look at the wiki page, looks like a good app.

honeybadger · 10-10-2009, 07:56 AM

At work I am _supposed_ to support winduhs. Specially winduhs7. So I put installed winduhs7 on a virtual mechine (using debian as the host ofcourse).
Once I understand what I reqiure to get my job done I will - in all honesty - install bsd on the virtual machine

johngoodin · 10-10-2009, 07:56 AM

I have two systems one is a Windows/Linux box and the other a Debian only box.

The main reason I still run Windows on one is hardware Linux does not support. Mainly Win-Printers like my Xerox WorkCentre Pro 580 and my Xerox WorkCentre 470cx both purchased at a flea market for only $5 each after the vendor didn't pay his lease to the flea market owner.

Both work great in Windows put only the Xerox WorkCentre 470cx likes Debian.

As far as Dual Booting goes I can use Debian and ClamAV as a way to rescue my Windows partition from viruses and Trojans.

Trojans are my one biggest problem in Windows. My mother also uses the dual boot system and picked up some rather nasty Trojans in Windows. Clam-AV via KlamAV fixed them all.

onebuck · 10-10-2009, 08:40 AM

Hi,

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Originally Posted by multios

I don't know the first thing about virtual systems. Figured that if it takes room to run, why not just install it. But, I don't know if that is really how it is

The utility of the VM is in that you have available the use of multiple OS on a Host. That way you can have access without multi-boot. If you have the machine resources then the client OS operations will be transparent.

Very useful in development, servers and just plain fun.

landonmkelsey · 10-10-2009, 09:43 AM

several reasons to dual boot
(1) very very useful when finding a job to have knowledge of Linux and Windows (sometimes)

Be careful though...there are those on both sides who hate the other side so be ready to fix your resume

(2) see (1)

If you are going to be a programmer, .NET will be a potent force so might make sense to learn C#.NET

mono development for C# 3.5 is avail on Linux

Otherwise develop using Qt 4.5 on Linux

I'll bet Windows 7 is Vista with a cosmetic job